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by The Annoyed Man
Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:53 pm
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Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
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Re: Extrajudicial Killing

Jeff B. wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:44 pm
Irish Bob O’Rourke says he believes in our 2nd Amendment rights too. Go by what MB does, not what they say. They’re neck deep in Hamas and other terror orgs.
Took me a minute to catch up to you there... very nice!

I don't think there's a government in the world that doesn't have some blood on its hands through some "wet work".

You don't want to appear to be a nail.

Jeff B.
And Jeff, I don’t want to appear as condoning assassination as an instrument of foreign policy....with rare exception....for me it’s more of a question of whether or not this particular assassination upsets me much. The answer is, no it doesn’t - at least not much. In hindsight, the world might have been well served if Hitler, Stalin, and Mao had been assassinated. If they had been taken out, possibly a hundred million or more people might have not been killed off. So the balance of one life versus tens of millions is an easy one. But it would be difficult to make that kind of calculus over Khashoggi’s life. He may have been less than a good guy, but he wasn’t that important, either.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:40 pm
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Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2056

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

Beiruty wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:38 pm
rotor wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:06 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:53 pm
Chaparral wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:48 pm
Yeah, I guess. Like Putin poisoning Litvinenko with Polonium, and Skripal with Novichok.
Add to that the killing of Arafat by the Mossad (Polonium or other radiating matter)
You have definitive proof of that statement?
Definite proof?, I m sorry I cannot claim that. Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_of_ ... h_polonium and get your own conclusion. Note, polonium was found in his remains.
Beiruty, I have a question. Since polonium poisoning was a well known tactic of Russian intelligence, is it possible that Russia wanted Arafat out of the way for some reason or other?
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:25 pm
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Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2056

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

More details about who Khashoggi was....

This article details 10 important questions about Khashoggi: https://thefederalist.com/2018/10/15/10 ... narrative/.
7. How Did a Man with Extensive Ties to Intelligence Services as Well as Extremist Groups Get a Green Card?
Khashoggi writes a column for the Washington Post and worked at a number of Saudi media organizations, print and broadcast. Broadly speaking, he is a journalist, as the U.S. press is describing him—with the caveat that most Arab journalists primarily serve the political masters who pay and protect them, and often represent the interests of intelligence services.

Khashoggi was an adviser to former Saudi intelligence chief Turki al-Faisal when he was ambassador to London, then Washington. Khashoggi reportedly joined the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1970s and continues to advocate for political Islam. He called the late Saudi dissident Osama Bin Laden a friend and mourned his death. It appears that Khasshogi may have been something like Riyadh’s back channel to al-Qaeda, at least prior to 9/11.

So how did a former Saudi official with ties to intelligence services, connections to the Muslim Brotherhood, and a long history with a terrorist responsible for nearly 3,000 deaths on U.S. soil obtain permanent resident status?

Khashoggi must have important American patrons, because even though he reportedly moved to the United States in 2017, he already had a green card. According to the Washington Post’s David Ignatius: “Friends helped Khashoggi obtain a visa that allowed him to stay in the United States as a permanent resident.” So who vouched for him and why?

It might be useful to put these questions to former CIA director John Brennan. He was station chief in Riyadh from 1996-1999, when Khashoggi’s patron Turki al-Faisal was head of Saudi’s general intelligence directorate.
It’s worth noting that this article was written back in October. Since then, people who were close to Khashoggi are on record as saying that he did NOT have a Green Card, and was here on a temporary visa. Whichever version of the story is true, his ties to Brennan pretty much cement the fact that he was not just a reporter.

There is another article I saw a while back which goes into greater detail about Khashoggi’s intelligence connection, and if I can find it, I’ll post it here. But the above article covers some of the issues.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2056

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

Chaparral wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:56 pm
I never meant to suggest that anyone on this forum condoned extrajudicial killing. I was just pointing out other recent examples of the killing of rogue spys.

Again, I’m no expert, but this is what the Muslim Brotherhood says they believe in...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

“According to a spokesman on its English-language website, the Muslim Brotherhood believes in reform, democracy, freedom of assembly, press, etc.

We believe that the political reform is the true and natural gateway for all other kinds of reform. We have announced our acceptance of democracy that acknowledges political pluralism, the peaceful rotation of power and the fact that the nation is the source of all powers. As we see it, political reform includes the termination of the state of emergency, restoring public freedoms, including the right to establish political parties, whatever their tendencies may be, and the freedom of the press, freedom of criticism and thought, freedom of peaceful demonstrations, freedom of assembly, etc. It also includes the dismantling of all exceptional courts and the annulment of all exceptional laws, establishing the independence of the judiciary, enabling the judiciary to fully and truly supervise general elections so as to ensure that they authentically express people's will, removing all obstacles that restrict the functioning of civil society organizations, etc.“
Irish Bob O’Rourke says he believes in our 2nd Amendment rights too. Go by what MB does, not what they say. They’re neck deep in Hamas and other terror orgs.
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2056

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

srothstein wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:12 am
The difference is actually very easy to see. Notice who is most upset about the KSA killing. This same group is also not upset about anything Obama did and generally ignores the Constitution. In this case, they are upset because the current president is not upset about it. This is American politics being played out. I do not see very many conservatives upset about the killing, though I am not sure if it is because they support the president, they see the hypocrisy, or they see what happens in other countries to their citizens as none of our business.
Pretty much everything he said ^^....

I think that most conservatives aren’t that upset because they largely think it’s none of our business. Had Trump withheld his opinion, they’d probably still feel that way. But the Democrat Steno Pool (AKA “the media”) is pushing a narrative that is not backed up by the facts.
  • Khashoggi was a US Resident: NO, he was not. Even his closest associates acknowledge that he was in the US on a temporary visa, and did not possess a Green Card. He was NOT a US resident.
  • Khashoggi was a Journalist: NO, he was not....at least not as a full time profession. He was a “contributor” to some news organizations, but there is also good reason to believe that he was a Saudi intelligence operative who went rogue. If I can find the link, I’ll provide it here.
  • Khashoggi was a Good Guy: No, he was an active member and proponent of Muslim Brotherhood - a terrorism sponsor.
As a general rule, I don’t think political assassination is a good thing. OTH, if the US had had the opportunity to assassinate Adolf Hitler circa 1940 and didn’t take it, I’d be disappointed (again) by our gov’t. But whether or not it is a good idea, if a foreign gov’t wants to kill a bad person who occasionally visits the US to subvert its politics here at home, I’m good with that.

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