Search found 10 matches

by Charles L. Cotton
Tue May 28, 2013 11:30 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

RoyGBiv wrote:Any word on the new cost for renewals?
Probably a bit early to ask, since it's not yet been signed into law... :mrgreen:
This is rank speculation, but my guess is the fee won't go down. DPS still has to do pretty much everything for each renewal application, except look for a CHL-100 in the file. DPS doesn't get the fees, but the Code expressly requires DPS to charge a fee that covers the cost of processing renewals. DPS has to pay $23.50 for every set of fingerprints sent to the FBI and with a lot of folks eligible for the 50% discount (60 yrs and older + veterans), that leaves only $11.50 to cover the rest of their work including manufacturing and mailing of the CHL.

Again, this is just my guess; I have no inside information.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Thu May 23, 2013 7:06 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

Myste wrote:I am very pleased this passed. I am new to the board and had a question regarding timing of my CHL renewal. Since this law has passed, and is supposed to be in effect Sept 1st, should I wait until Sept 1st to renew (my license expires the end of Sept) ? I am thinking of how long it took to get the CHL originally and wondering if mine would expire before I received the new one if I waited to apply (I prefer not to go to the class especially with the cost and scarcity of ammo).

Thanks for your help!
It's hard to say whether you could apply on Sept. 1st and have your new CHL by your birthday. DPS usually processes between 4,000 and 6,000 applications each month, but the Obama rush has increased this number to 15,000 to 17,000! DPS has to process these with the same personnel, so turnaround times will be impacted. Even if you don't get it in less than a month, it shouldn't result in too long of a time without a CHL. You'll have to decide how important that is.

Welcome to the Forum.
Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Wed May 22, 2013 3:33 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

jerry_r60 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:HB48 that removes the necessity of taking a class to renew a Texas CHL passed today. It now goes to the Governor.

Chas.
I understood HB48 as you have described however I was confused on how to apply it in context of SB 864 also passing, which lowered requirments of the class but still had them (as I understand it). Is it as simple as SB 864 definging a course (for initial application and renewal) and then HB 48 saying you don't need to take that course? Does SB 864 get applied and then HB 48 comes behind it and nullifys it for renewals?
You are correct. When two bills pass in the same session that impact the same area of the law, they must be reconciled. So SB864 creates a single class for both new and renewal students that is 4 to 6 hours long, but HB48 removes the need to take that class to renew a CHL. It's when two bills are conflicting that you must look to the times each passed. There is no irreconcilable conflict between SB864 and HB48, but if there were, then we would have the same result. HB48 passed after SB864, so the provisions of HB48 would control to the extent they were in conflict with anything in SB864. (Sorry for the lawyer-like answer. :lol: )

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Wed May 22, 2013 9:48 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
texanjoker wrote:While I do like this, as it saves both time and money, how is this going to effect reciprocity with other states?
That's the big question mark.

Chas.
I should have added that I don't think we will lose reciprocity with any states, but it's not certain. Several states don't require renewal classes and they still enjoy reciprocity with most states. Florida is an example.

If it does happen, then we'll deal with it in the next session after the problem arises.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Wed May 22, 2013 9:14 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

texanjoker wrote:While I do like this, as it saves both time and money, how is this going to effect reciprocity with other states?
That's the big question mark.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Wed May 22, 2013 9:09 am
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

RPBrown wrote:This is great.

However, I see they took out the part about carrying on an expired license.

This does trouble me a little with the extended times it is taking DPS to do what they do to issue the license.

I guess this was another "compromise"
That provision would have cost us our NICS exemption. There's a way to achieve the same goal without extending the effective date of a CHL beyond it's expiration date. I'll draft a bill to accomplish this for the 2015 session.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Tue May 21, 2013 10:30 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

Jumping Frog wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:HB48 that removes the necessity of taking a class to renew a Texas CHL passed today. It now goes to the Governor..
Does it remove the requirement for range re-qualification as well as the classroom time?
Yes. Renewal will be only paperwork.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Tue May 21, 2013 9:20 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

Zencyl wrote:Is there a grandfather clause? I have a coworker who's license expired last week and he hasn't had time to go to a class, does he still have to take the renewal class?
No, there is no grandfather provision. In fact, HB48 expressly states, " To renew a license, a license holder must , on or before the date the license expires, . . . " The emphasized phrase is new, whereas the current language allows a person to renewal a license after expiration. DPS has generously agreed by rule to allow people to renew up to one year after expiration. The express language of HB48 requires renewal prior to or on the date of expiration and it also requires that this be made possible purely online. So theoretically a person could renew on their birthday when their CHL would otherwise expire. This does not mean your CHL is good at that point. You still have to wait for the new license.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Tue May 21, 2013 9:12 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

Re: HB48: Passed

K.Mooneyham wrote:That sounds like great news! So, basically, just fill out the forms and send them in with a check?
That's pretty much it. It will likely be done on the Internet and people will have to acknowledge that they read the "laws" notification document DPS will be required to create.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Tue May 21, 2013 8:32 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB48: Passed
Replies: 60
Views: 30987

HB48: Passed

HB48 that removes the necessity of taking a class to renew a Texas CHL passed today. It now goes to the Governor.

Chas.

Return to “HB48: Passed”