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by Oldgringo
Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:26 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting Charleston SC
Replies: 200
Views: 101817

Re: Church shooting Charleston SC

Oldgringo wrote:
jmra wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:In light of everything that has happened and the aftermath, I wonder how many churches/church leadership will reevaluate their position on allowing their congregants to carry?
Are we talking about Texas or other states? In Texas the only churches off limits are those that have taken action to strip you of your right to self defense. In other states like SC inaction on the part of the church prevents you from protecting yourself and others. I view the two very differently. I don't believe the churches in Texas that have posted 30.06 will change their mind unless it hits them in the pocket book (people stop going). I think you have a better chance in other states of conservative led churches taking action to allow members to carry.
That being said, when Arkansas passed a law allowing churches to decide to allow CC, the lawyers at my brothers church got involved and their policy actually became more restrictive than before the law passed. Previously the church allowed both full time and reserve officers to carry on church property. When the lawyers were done only full time officers were allowed to carry. So, a law intended to expand CC in churches in Arkansas may actually be doing the opposite.
Hmmm? If you'll look into the by-laws (or whatever it may be called) of the United Methodist Church, guns are officially frowned upon and otherwise unwelcome in the services. I dunno' 'bout other denominations?
I dunno'? I wouldn't be surprised if regionality didn't come into play in the rule interpretations as well. What I do know is that I ain't gonna' dwell on it...one way or another.
by Oldgringo
Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:14 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting Charleston SC
Replies: 200
Views: 101817

Re: Church shooting Charleston SC

jmra wrote:
TexasCajun wrote:In light of everything that has happened and the aftermath, I wonder how many churches/church leadership will reevaluate their position on allowing their congregants to carry?
Are we talking about Texas or other states? In Texas the only churches off limits are those that have taken action to strip you of your right to self defense. In other states like SC inaction on the part of the church prevents you from protecting yourself and others. I view the two very differently. I don't believe the churches in Texas that have posted 30.06 will change their mind unless it hits them in the pocket book (people stop going). I think you have a better chance in other states of conservative led churches taking action to allow members to carry.
That being said, when Arkansas passed a law allowing churches to decide to allow CC, the lawyers at my brothers church got involved and their policy actually became more restrictive than before the law passed. Previously the church allowed both full time and reserve officers to carry on church property. When the lawyers were done only full time officers were allowed to carry. So, a law intended to expand CC in churches in Arkansas may actually be doing the opposite.
Hmmm? If you'll look into the by-laws (or whatever it may be called) of the United Methodist Church, guns are officially frowned upon and otherwise unwelcome in the services. I dunno' 'bout other denominations?
by Oldgringo
Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:24 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting Charleston SC
Replies: 200
Views: 101817

Re: Church shooting Charleston SC

My heart goes out to the survivors and families of this unspeakable act of hatred. :tiphat:

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