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ScottDLS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:29 pm Per the Legislature tracking website, it's signed. Tomorrow there may be a signing ceremony at the Alamo, but it will be like the the giant check that lottery hands out when you win the Powerball....it's not the one you take to the bank and deposit.

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:01 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:34 pm

oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:34 pm

dru wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:30 pm > No. In Texas, when a bill passes within 10 days of final adjournment, the Governor has 20 days from the day of final adjournment to sign or veto the bill or it becomes law without his signature. https://www.house.texas.gov/about-us/bill/

Ah, thanks for clarifying. Well either way he's running short on time. I can't imagine he lets this go without taking a victory lap on it. It makes me wonder why he's taking his time with the bill. I know it doesn't change the effective date but geez.....

Abbott had/has hundreds of bills to sign from the 87th legislature. Also, it takes time to arrange a suitable location, media coverage, and to ensure the all of the notable folks can attend. Similar to signing the bill that provides for carrying openly, Abbott wants to make a show. Good for him and good for us.

I had the thought that they may not want to give a lot of notice of a signing ceremony to reduce the risk of leftist loons showing up to protest the bill.

Thing is this ain't Portland, DPS would take great delight in REMOVING Leftest Loons!

oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:34 pm

dru wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:30 pm > No. In Texas, when a bill passes within 10 days of final adjournment, the Governor has 20 days from the day of final adjournment to sign or veto the bill or it becomes law without his signature. https://www.house.texas.gov/about-us/bill/

Ah, thanks for clarifying. Well either way he's running short on time. I can't imagine he lets this go without taking a victory lap on it. It makes me wonder why he's taking his time with the bill. I know it doesn't change the effective date but geez.....

Abbott had/has hundreds of bills to sign from the 87th legislature. Also, it takes time to arrange a suitable location, media coverage, and to ensure the all of the notable folks can attend. Similar to signing the bill that provides for carrying openly, Abbott wants to make a show. Good for him and good for us.

TxRVer wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:23 am

powerboatr wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:30 pm

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:23 pm

powerboatr wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:25 pm

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:37 pm ....

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Te ... ll=HB1927

There is also some hearing information and legislative briefs from when the bill was being debated there as well.

thanks i bookmarked and saved a copy to my computer. made my head hurt after 30 minutes. it will take some time to digest it

I think it will be a little easier when the LTC-16 2021/22 comes out (assuming they still keep printing it). The hard part until then is to read the existing statutes and then going back to the bill and see what they change/replace.

the hyper links embedded in the online version made that a bit easier, but still Its a whole lot to absorb. i will read it at least 100 more times and make notes and cheat sheets to help explain it to my better half.
but according to my new neighbor that is building a house over from us, this new law will let him carry open everywhere and i mean everywhere so he tells me. .

If you only watch the local news for your information, you could come away with that misconception. They only tell you that unlicensed/untrained people will be able to carry.

Mel wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 7:26 am

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:55 am It’s Friday the 28th. What happens if the Governor doesn’t sign by Monday.

It's my understanding that if the Governor doesn't VETO, it becomes law on 01 SEP 2021.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:57 am

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:54 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:39 pm Does this bill really change anything in regards to those who have their LTC? Or will that remain business as usual?

Based on my analysis, we can no longer be prevented from carrying in government meetings covered by the open meetings act and we get the "belt and shoulder" restriction removed from our holster choices.

This is great news. I’ve been wanting forever to ankle-carry a j-frame BUG while wearing cargo shorts.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:25 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:21 pm

loscar141 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:12 pm just out of curiosity what would be considered a poison pill?

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wrecking_amendment
In legislative debate, a wrecking amendment (also called a poison pill amendment or killer amendment) is an amendment made by a legislator who disagrees with the principles of a bill and who seeks to make it useless (by moving amendments to either make the bill malformed and nonsensical, or to severely change its intent) rather than directly opposing the bill by simply voting against it.

Which of the accepted Senate amendments, in your opinion, was a poison pill according to that definition?

loscar141 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:12 pm just out of curiosity what would be considered a poison pill?

en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wrecking_amendment
In legislative debate, a wrecking amendment (also called a poison pill amendment or killer amendment) is an amendment made by a legislator who disagrees with the principles of a bill and who seeks to make it useless (by moving amendments to either make the bill malformed and nonsensical, or to severely change its intent) rather than directly opposing the bill by simply voting against it.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 6:40 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:53 pm

ELB wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:18 pm Lt Gov Patrick's announcement:

https://www.ltgov.texas.gov/2021/05/21/ ... agreement/

Patrick just had to throw in his crappola about how innocent they were of accusations of poison pills. Politicians make me sick to my stomach. What actually happened is they got inundated by those of us calling and emailing explaining that our vote for them depended on this passing and they decided that poison pill was a bad idea after all. Had Texans not responded in force, that bill would be dead. JMHO

Before you start making authoritative statements, you should see what is in the final bill. There may still be things in it that you would have considered a "poison pill" but are part of the compromises made when crafting law.

ELB wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:18 pm Lt Gov Patrick's announcement:

https://www.ltgov.texas.gov/2021/05/21/ ... agreement/

Tex1961 wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 8:23 pm

Flightmare wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 8:17 pm Rep Schaefer just posted on social media;

Big Second Amendment news for Texas coming very soon! #2A

I'm hoping this is in reference to 1927

I hate when people do that, give us news or don’t.