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Paladin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:00 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:59 pm I am wondering what the rate of voluntary compliance was in Australia.

I heard that PVC pipes were scarce for a while there

I am wondering what the rate of voluntary compliance was in Australia.

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:40 am

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:40 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:58 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:29 pm

mayor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:03 am Hypothetical question.
If the US government decides it's a good idea to follow Australia's lead and ban guns, at what point do citizens use their guns to shut that nonsense down?

I think the real question is "what percentage of US citizens will actively resist". My guess is that it will be a very small percentage, but that it will be enough to make any confiscation effort extremely unpleasant for the government.

I agree. What I think what would most likely happen is most gun owning Americans will first attempt to just quietly secret their guns away in their homes. The question would next be, how will the government react to people refusing to turn in their weapons. The door to door thing will be the only option left for the government. That is when I think we will see what happens next.

Who are they going to send door to door to take away guns?
My local PD won't do it.... Yes.. I asked them.
Texas National Guard? Who are you kidding?
There are not enough FBI/Federal agents to get the job done and I expect a fair number (most, hopefully) of them would tell Uncle Alzheimer to pound sand.

The real problem for the gun-grabbers is that many of them just don't understand the concept of logistics. Logistics does not simply mean moving packages from one place to another.

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:40 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:58 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:29 pm

mayor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:03 am Hypothetical question.
If the US government decides it's a good idea to follow Australia's lead and ban guns, at what point do citizens use their guns to shut that nonsense down?

I think the real question is "what percentage of US citizens will actively resist". My guess is that it will be a very small percentage, but that it will be enough to make any confiscation effort extremely unpleasant for the government.

I agree. What I think what would most likely happen is most gun owning Americans will first attempt to just quietly secret their guns away in their homes. The question would next be, how will the government react to people refusing to turn in their weapons. The door to door thing will be the only option left for the government. That is when I think we will see what happens next.

Who are they going to send door to door to take away guns?
My local PD won't do it.... Yes.. I asked them.
Texas National Guard? Who are you kidding?
There are not enough FBI/Federal agents to get the job done and I expect a fair number (most, hopefully) of them would tell Uncle Alzheimer to pound sand.

I wish I had your confidence in what your local PD "SAYS" to you. Law enforcement is not honorable when it comes to sacrificing their pensions or salaries. History has shone police will take their orders from their boss and execute. They don't see civilians as their bosses. I hope you are right and other PD's would refuse to do the same. I don't think most local PD's would do it because they don't have the manpower. The most likely thing I suspect would be a newly installed department of Federal law enforcement.

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:29 pm

mayor wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:03 am Hypothetical question.
If the US government decides it's a good idea to follow Australia's lead and ban guns, at what point do citizens use their guns to shut that nonsense down?

I think the real question is "what percentage of US citizens will actively resist". My guess is that it will be a very small percentage, but that it will be enough to make any confiscation effort extremely unpleasant for the government.

I agree. What I think what would most likely happen is most gun owning Americans will first attempt to just quietly secret their guns away in their homes. The question would next be, how will the government react to people refusing to turn in their weapons. The door to door thing will be the only option left for the government. That is when I think we will see what happens next.