The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:33 am
flechero wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:14 am
The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:44 am
and
made to sign a trespass form
Could be easily challenged and thrown out... as he was made to sign it under duress. Of course he may not care after being treated that way.
Too much info missing for me to get ruffled yet, however, the gun case being unlocked and unattended is something a manager should be concerned about. (regardless of how it;s reported to him)
When I posted this story, I wasn’t as outraged as the person who tweeted the story in the first place.... but I
was a
little bit outraged. My opinion was that it was way over the line for an individual store manager (who may be only 1 of 2 or 3 for that store alone) to trespass the subject from ALL Walmart stores for
LIFE, and it was unlawful for the police to make a private citizen sign a corporate document.
I think I would have refused to sign the form, and made the police trespass me out of that one store, since their jurisdiction is limited. I don’t see how they could arrest me for refusing to sign a
Walmart generated form, which
can apply to all stores. I don’t see how a "disorderly conduct" or similar charge could be made to stick for refusing to sign a
private corporation's form. Walmart is not the law, and I’m pretty sure that a court would agree. I think that, when the officer tried to hand me my gun back, I would have said, "Here’s what we're gonna do. You hang onto that for a minute so that you all will feel safer about things, and we're going to all walk out of the store together. You can detain me in cuffs while walking out it makes you feel better. Then, once we're outside, you can cite me, or trespass me using one of
your forms. Then, if you can’t find a reason to actually arrest me, you can uncuff me, return my firearm, and I’ll leave peacefully. But I am NOT going to sign a form produced by a non-law enforcement entity—which is well within my rights to refuse to do—and you can't
MAKE me put my signature to a document that isn’t gov’t generated. Shall we walk?"
