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KFP wrote:

pbwalker wrote:

seamusTX wrote:I am addressing bona fide RKBA advocates who seem to be more concerned with ideological purity than results. They complain that the NRA has not achieved enough, or lately that the leadership has failed to abandon the interest of the membership for the sake of some abstract principle.

- Jim

Based on what I have read in recent NRA related threads, I assume you only find the NRA to be a bona fide advocate? (on a national level)

Do you ever hear an elected official mention any others?

Do you ever hear any mainstream media mention any others?

Everyone "knows" the NRA, only us gun nuts know about GOA, JPFO, etc.

Very true, but remember one thing...I'm sure no one was mentioning the NRA in November of 1871. You have to start somewhere...

And I agree with Jim 100% on the "armchair quarterbacking" that is done. If anything, these other organizations should be thanking the NRA for paving the road that they can drive their agenda on. I do think, though, that dismissing them is only doing a disservice.

side note: I've actually enjoyed this thread quite a bit...it's great to be on a forum where civil discourse and intelligent, thought provoking posts are the norm!

seamusTX wrote:I am addressing bona fide RKBA advocates who seem to be more concerned with ideological purity than results. They complain that the NRA has not achieved enough, or lately that the leadership has failed to abandon the interest of the membership for the sake of some abstract principle.

- Jim

Based on what I have read in recent NRA related threads, I assume you only find the NRA to be a bona fide advocate? (on a national level)

ELB wrote:But when someone strings two half-facts together with an absolutist attitude and launches a flaming arrow using terms like "sell out," "doesn't listen to its members" (which of course, really means "me"), "gag order," and the like, that is not helpful to either the NRA orthe RKBA cause.

I would say that, too, applies to any pro-RKBA groups. The "what have you done?" attitude doesn't help. Ultimately, we're all after the same goal. It's the 'how to go about it' that is argued. So, no, the JPFO, SAF, or GOA haven't done the same thing that the NRA has. They don't have the same membership numbers. But remember, we're all pro-2A. Let's hug it out!

/NRA Member
//TSRA Member
///Not a member of any other RKBA groups
////I like slashes

seamusTX wrote:My hot point is when people complain that the NRA is not sufficiently politically correct, or even start attributing secret nefarious motives to the NRA leadership.

Ahhh ok...I thought you meant any critical comments, my apologies.

yeah...that will garner new members...

why the aversion to any critical thoughts / questions towards the NRA?