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by Excaliber
Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:26 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?
Replies: 134
Views: 8649

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

HerbM wrote:Avoiding Criminal Assaults -- Presentation at 17th Annual Texas Concealed Handgun Association (TCHA) conference in Kerrville
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

PowerPoint and PDF for download if you are interested.

Go Home Safe!

I had a great time delivery this presentation to the very fine group of people at the TCHA Convention. Most of the folks there were CHL Instructors and it is safe to say the presentation was very well received.

So if you are interested in the full story of how we do this in our Austin Combatives & Self-Defense group please take a look.

You are welcome to use or share it.

It was also my great pleasure to meet our forum host, Charles Cotton.
This is excellent advice well presented in a compact format.

The resources it draws on are solid, and I know from experience that the techniques work in the street. I've used a lot of them many times and am certain that they have made it unnecessary to deploy last resort options to the mutual benefit of both the aggressor and myself.

Thanks to HerbM for making this valuable information available in a format that can easily be passed along to others.
by Excaliber
Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:50 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?
Replies: 134
Views: 8649

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

Oldgringo wrote:
Shoot Straight wrote:
Excaliber wrote:"Don't move" is a much better initial command (you'll soon realize you can't continue to just look at each other and you'll have to give a series of directions after that) because it's unambiguous and close enough to the same phrase in Spanish that it's almost always understood. That's a major consideration in Texas and many other areas of the country as well.
That's one of the reasons my most frequent verbalization in practice is "NO!"

I may say other things depending on the totality of the situation in the scenario practiced but the most common is a simple "NO!" with or without a stop gesture with my support hand, depending on the distance. The voice tone and body language are enough to make myself clear to dogs, so humans have no excuse.
"NO" is pretty universal. If the perceived aggressor doesn't understand "NO", then it's :fire time...maybe?

If it comes to that, Heaven forbid, it will be :rules: time.
"NO" may have application some situations during the approach phase of an attack, but I don't favor it because it's not clear and specific and can be exploited by a street wise BG, as in:"No what?" as he continues his final approach.
by Excaliber
Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?
Replies: 134
Views: 8649

Re: Do you practice a phrase to yell if you draw on a BG?

03Lightningrocks wrote:
WildBill wrote:
HerbM wrote:The jokes would be funny except that it concerns me that some people reading this might think them serious or actual practice.

It is most effective to have set verbiage to use when avoiding and repelling a criminal attack, and to use it EVEN IF the threat is so close that warning and response must occur together.

I recommend the "BACK OFF!" sequence because it works so effectively UP TO the actual response and trying to insert additional wording in a situation that is already fraught with live threatening fear and peril is just not a good idea.

For a useful way to Avoid Criminal Attacks, please see my outline with some useful detail here: http://www.meetup.com/AustinCombatives/ ... d/10163916

You definitely do NOT want to be saying anything that will not do you service when played back by MSNBC or ABC over the following months as you await the Grand Jury decision or your trial. Seriously.
:iagree: I also hope that people realize that certain posts are jokes and that their statements could be used against them.
This forum has rules that won't allow me to post exactly what I would say but the first word would be FREEZE and the second word would just depend on the person I am screaming freeze to.

Then there are situations I would say nothing and begin firing.

Neither of these comments would have a negative impact if read by a DA in determining what to do if I fire in self defense because I will only be firing if absolutely necessary and there will be no doubt about who the good guy is.
"Back off" or "Stop - back off!" is viable during the approach phase. "Freeze!" during the initiation of the attack works better in the movies than in real life. The reason is that it's not clear direction in any language, is not widely used by police, and is not understood by non english speakers at all.

There's also a world of difference in the effects of screaming versus issuing commands.

The implied use of expletives for emphasis has no upside for good guys on the street and enough downsides to make it clearly unproductive.

"Don't move" is a much better initial command (you'll soon realize you can't continue to just look at each other and you'll have to give a series of directions after that) because it's unambiguous and close enough to the same phrase in Spanish that it's almost always understood. That's a major consideration in Texas and many other areas of the country as well.

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