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by Excaliber
Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:07 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today
Replies: 55
Views: 16827

Re: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today

Jumping Frog wrote:
SassedandLoaded wrote:I have learned that if it is too large, I won't be able to carry it every day.
That is what is know as a "rationalizing assumption".

Many people carry full size firearms everyday. Personally, I have either a full size M&P .40 or a government size 1911 .45 on my hip everyday, with two spare magazines.

It is always good to re-test and re-evaluate ones assumptions on a regular basis.
How much gun you can carry and conceal is determined by your choice on an earlier decision:

Will you dress around the gun or gun around your dress?
by Excaliber
Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:30 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today
Replies: 55
Views: 16827

Re: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today

Box wrote:I'm late to this conversion but here is a good video. Not mine, just thought I'll share.

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Good video with production issues.

It would have been much more effective if they had either started with the bad guy at the right side of the frame or had someone behind the camera following the action so that the full sequence of events would have been captured.

It still gets the point across, but with more effort on the viewer's part.
by Excaliber
Fri May 16, 2014 8:05 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today
Replies: 55
Views: 16827

Re: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today

jbarn wrote:I don't know how you guys carry XDs sized guns in your pants pockets? What size and style pant?
It works with a good pocket holster in cargo shorts with wide and deep pockets and some tactical pants.

That use is one of the major reasons I bought one for.

It doesn't work with jeans, shallow pockets, or narrow pockets.
by Excaliber
Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:16 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today
Replies: 55
Views: 16827

Re: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today

asbandr wrote:I have the p238 as well and have worried about whether or not it would be enough to stop a threat, especially if approached by multiple attackers. I decided to carry an extra mag. So I've got the 6 round flush mag plus one chambered and then the 7 round mag that came with the gun. The flush mag aids in concealment for me. I have been considering a 9mm and looked at the sig p290, but at this point I can't imagine carrying a bigger gun. It's hard enough to conceal the p238! But I'm sure as I get used to carrying I will get more comfortable with a bigger gun. Plus I don't want to get rid of my p238, and I can't afford another gun on top of that right now.
The general rule is bigger is better - until you reach the point where it becomes difficult to conceal it or you don't want to carry it. Then go back one step and carry on.

As others have said, the P238 you always carry beats the heck out of the .44 magnum in the safe at home.
by Excaliber
Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:19 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today
Replies: 55
Views: 16827

Re: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today

SassedandLoaded wrote:Thanks everyone for the support. I think I've finally calmed down.
I ended up making a trip to the shooting range to blow off some steam. :fire

To answer the questions:

-No, I didn't call the police. I wasn't sure what they could have possibly done at that point since the perp was long gone. Also, I never took my gun out of the holster and it was never visible, so I didn't worry about getting called in myself. Should I have?

-My coworkers were shocked by what the situation. One of them actually said "Wow, I can't believe how well you handled that. I probably would have let the guy approach me instead of stopping him when I felt uncomfortable." They asked several questions about why I carry, the process to get a CHL, and we talked a little about training and situational awareness. I also talked to them about how important it is to not make it public knowledge that I carry, etc.
I was glad they were supportive. I then told them (firmly) they needed to read "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker, and then pass it to their wives.

And you better believe my little p238 is cocked and locked today. :txflag:

Which leads me to another question, am I carrying enough gun?
I can shoot the heck out of the p238, but I am limited by caliber and round count.
I have learned that if it is too large, I won't be able to carry it every day.

Suggestions? Or is this a topic for another post?
Take a look at a Springfield XDs in 9mm. It's not too much bigger than the 238, delivers a lot more oomph to deserving parties, and has a grip safety that you don't have to think about and can't forget to turn off.
by Excaliber
Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:13 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today
Replies: 55
Views: 16827

Re: Learned my lesson about "one in the pipe" today

SassedandLoaded wrote:As a new-ish CHL holder, I had been a little hesitant about carrying my p238 with "one in the pipe". NEVER AGAIN.

Today I had my first close call. My hands are still shaking and my heart is still racing even though it is 30 minutes since the incident.

I work in a downtown area. My office is close to a pharmacy which we frequent for cokes, snacks etc.
This afternoon, two of my male colleagues and I were headed for our afternoon Dr. Pepper when a male in his early 30s came from behind a truck and started running towards us telling us to stop walking. I immediately saw him as a threat and held my hand up and yelled at him to "STOP GET BACK". He continued to run towards us, and I could feel the two guys I was with retreat (nice, huh). I told him again to "STOP, GET BACK". He then shouted back that he would teach me a lesson on how to talk to people and continued to move towards me. At this point he was less than 10 feet away. He was holding his oversized basketball jersey with his hands and started moving them around. I immediately began drawing. Before I could even get my shirt lifted out of the way, he backed up and ran away muttering about how I was "some crazy white lady".

My lesson from this is, in the heat of the moment (and even afterwards) there is NO WAY I would be able to rack the slide and chamber a round. I could barely even get my credit card out of my wallet 15 minutes later when trying to pay for my drink.

No matter what, I will always be prepared from now on. My male coworkers may think I'm a crazy lady for causing a scene, but honestly, I think I did the right thing. There was no reason for that man to approach me and then refuse to stop running towards me.

Any tips for calming down? :eek6
First of all, you did very well in handling a sudden threat.

Street folks are really quick at sensing the very beginnings of a draw stroke. Most will react exactly as the subject of your account did and back off in a hurry.

The answer to your coworkers' "crazy lady" comments should be something along the lines of: "Well, someone had to manage the advancing threat while you two were busy wetting yourselves."

You've now had a first hand experience with the mental and biological changes that happen when you're confronted by a sudden threat. I'd encourage you to learn more about that so you recognize what's happening and can manage it to your advantage.

Again, you did really well.

Your coworkers did not.

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