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More confirmation that students can be dangerous in this article.

Jago668 wrote:

Soccerdad1995 wrote:

parabelum wrote:Saw a guy giving his what looked like 10-11 year old daughter 1911 to shoot, nothing wrong with that if done SAFELY!, but she had her finger on the trigger prematurely and dropped the gun after she fired.

My daughter was 9 when she first shot a handgun. I gave her my Glock 19 (similar recoil to a full size 1911 in .45), but I only loaded one round in the mag until I was confident that she could handle the gun. This was specifically to prevent any issues with her dropping the gun or letting the recoil move it away from a down range orientation. Her first rifle was a .22 Cricket single shot that is still in my safe. She had to read the manual and pass a verbal test by me on the guns operation and gun safety before she got to take it to the range. I would pass that one on to her little brother (who is soon to be 8), except for the fact that it is pink. Guess I will have to pony up $100 or so for a brown one.

The point is to set a new shooter up for success, or at least safety, as much as possible. This is especially true if they are a kid. And doubly so if they are a boy (sorry, I know I'm stereotyping, but boys just seem a lot less calm than girls of the same age).

Could always take the stock off and spray paint it brown or whatever you want.

Or just buy a spare brown stock and swap out as needed.......

ScottDLS wrote:With all the reports of dangerous behavior at the range, I'm thinking of wearing a vest any time I leave my house. We've got almost 1million LTC's out there undoubtedly sweeping us with their holstered guns, and millions more MPA carriers. It really would be better if only properly trained LEO's and military on duty were allowed to carry in public.

You might change your mind if you had a chance to see some of the things that happen on police and military ranges.

The only way to keep everyone safe from all of those LTC's and MPA's out there who aren't causing anyone any trouble but theoretically could is to agree with the democrats and allow only criminals to carry guns.......

baldeagle wrote:Ok, Excalibur, you're scaring the daylights out of me. These are not commissioned police officers, right? Sounds like they need to meet some qualifications before they're allowed to carry weapons. Maybe we need a new law?

Range qualification days usually see a mix of new commissioned officer candidates and commissioned officers meeting their biannual requalification requirement. Those who are requalifying are generally a little better than the new candidates, but not by enough to inspire confidence or for me to go out among them without a ballistic vest.

Some of these folks clearly have not taken any training in even the most basic aspects of gun handling or operation, and very few have LTC's. They're there to get the ticket that gives them another one or two dollars per hour in their paychecks.

One young lady showed up with a gun she had just picked up at a pawn shop. It wouldn't fire more than 2 consecutive shots without malfunctioning. Another guy couldn't get his Glock loaded and chambered by himself. It's common to hear the range officer strongly advising students (who managed to finally get the magazine in with the projectiles facing forward and somehow put enough widely dispersed holes in the target to barely qualify) to get some basic pistol instruction before carrying on duty, but of course whether they do or not is totally up to them.

The instructor who ran the range for one of my recent commissioned security officer renewal classes not only wore a vest, but bluntly stated that he had been swept so many times by ignorant students that he would shoot any student who pointed a gun at him because he planned to go home again that night.

I wouldn't take his job for a million bucks. The level of firearms incompetence among commissioned security officers is horrifying. That's not universal of course because there are some very competent folks in that group, but they are a small minority. Those who literally don't know how to operate their weapons or have weapons that don't work even if they did know how to operate them are common.

BTW, after getting a look at what goes on there, I also wear a ballistic vest when I attend the renewal qualifications.