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Do the civil rights suit have a punishment phase? Could someone go to jail? I guess, any corrective measures can be in the included in the settlement.

this will never go to trial. It will be settled with multi-million dollars offered to shut up and go away.

Any testimony from the EMTs?

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One has to ask, did Erik commit a felony in the store so 911 was summoned? was it a misdonomener? or no crime at all? He was evacuated like everyone else where was the threat that drawn guns were needed? Least to say there was poor response to this incident. Such scenarios should have been studied, trained for, etc.. I do not hold hope for anything more than justifiable.

BrianSW99 wrote:

Beiruty wrote:Then, the evidence is clear, the officer overreacted and shot Erik when he was disarming himself. Any one asked the officer how one is supposed to disarm himself?

When the police are pointing guns at you, you don't. The last thing you want to do is make a movement toward your own gun. The officers will take care of the disarming, most likely after you're on the ground.

I agree. However, due to the state of mind of Erick and hi-dose of depressant in his system, I would assume Erick did not react like a normal person. I assume he just wanted to drop the gun quickly.

Wow imagine if there was a real video that clearly captured the incident. Imagine that such video shows up in court. Are those who testified would be proven to lie under oath?

baldeagle wrote:

Beiruty wrote:Did they testify that pistol was all the time holstered? If true, then there is no way the holstered pistol could be considered dangerous. No way you can discharge a pistol with holstered pistol pointed to the officers or otherwise. Also, anyone questioned whether the pistol was loaded, cocked and ready to fire? was the safety on?

Yes, the pistol was always holstered. Even when it was laying on the ground next to the dead Erik. Officer Mosher testified under oath that it was possible to fire a holstered weapon, then admitted under questioning that he had never tested that theory but was "certain it was possible". He also testified that he could tell that Erik's gun was a Kimber 1911 .45 in a Uncle Mike's IWB holster. There has been no testimony yet as to the condition of his gun (loaded, cocked, safety on or anything else.)

Then, the evidence is clear, the officer overreacted and shot Erik when he was disarming himself. Any one asked the officer how one is supposed to disarm himself? he claimed never tested the theory because he is not an idiot and any LEO knows that one of the functions of the holsters is to not to allow any access to the trigger and render the holstered firearm harmless.

Also, wasn't said in the 911 tapes that the subject pulled a gun, not pointed a gun. The gun was holstered, no? I believe the whole enchilada of the show is to cover the rear ends of all involved.

Did they testify that pistol was all the time holstered? If true, then there is no way the holstered pistol could be considered dangerous. No way you can discharge a pistol with holstered pistol pointed to the officers or otherwise. Also, anyone questioned whether the pistol was loaded, cocked and ready to fire? was the safety on?

When the girlfriend will testify? she was there all the time. She should witnessed all the events.

puma guy wrote:

Beiruty wrote:It seems that prosecutor are painting this incident as a suicide by cop, or incoherent drugged and armed person who threatened the officers with deadly force. It is interesting to see what video evidence there is or was.

Unrecoverable from the hard drive according to testimony.

Fishy, no? Costco is multi-billion dollars business. Can't they afford a working system? Aren't supposed to have a 100% working system 100% of the time?

What about the other witnesses?, the girlfriend?

It seems that prosecutor are painting this incident as a suicide by cop, or incoherent drugged and armed person who threatened the officers with deadly force. It is interesting to see what video evidence there is or was.

Will his girlfriend testify? I assume she was next to him. Even with no video her testimony is critical. If Scott never pulled his gun, then a big cover up is in process. And why in the world 3 officers had trained guns in a non-violent incident?

What are the odds that multiple cameras would fail at the same time? what are the odds that the recording system only failed at the time of shooting?

It will get very ugly in no time!