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by Beiruty
Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
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Re: Extrajudicial Killing

rotor wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:51 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:38 pm
rotor wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:06 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:53 pm
Chaparral wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:48 pm
Yeah, I guess. Like Putin poisoning Litvinenko with Polonium, and Skripal with Novichok.
Add to that the killing of Arafat by the Mossad (Polonium or other radiating matter)
You have definitive proof of that statement?
Definite proof?, I m sorry I cannot claim that. Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_of_ ... h_polonium and get your own conclusion. Note, polonium was found in his remains.
I don't know how Arafat died. He was 75. My only question was why you stated as if it was fact that Israel had him assassinated when I could not find anything conclusive to show that. I don't doubt that it was possible for Israel to do it as they have been involved with other assassinations but they as well as all countries including Saudi Arabia and the U.S. always deny but we know it happens.
It was mentioned assignation by Polonium. Thus, I remembered Arafat death and probable cause of death by Polonium. As I mentioned, there is no definitive proof. I edited my original post and added. "probable"
by Beiruty
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2079

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:40 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:38 pm
rotor wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:06 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:53 pm
Chaparral wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:48 pm
Yeah, I guess. Like Putin poisoning Litvinenko with Polonium, and Skripal with Novichok.
Add to that the killing of Arafat by the Mossad (Polonium or other radiating matter)
You have definitive proof of that statement?
Definite proof?, I m sorry I cannot claim that. Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_of_ ... h_polonium and get your own conclusion. Note, polonium was found in his remains.
Beiruty, I have a question. Since polonium poisoning was a well known tactic of Russian intelligence, is it possible that Russia wanted Arafat out of the way for some reason or other?
I do not know. I am not aware of such theory. Israel is a nuclear state and well capable of harvesting polonium. In addition, Russia is well know friend of Israel.
Who did what?
Who provided what?
Who were the actual actors on behalf of who?
Simply, I do not know.

Regards of all of that, the killing is not that important. The after of the fact of the killing is THE important matter.
by Beiruty
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:42 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2079

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

ScottDLS wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:14 pm
The other point of drone killings, assuming they are overseas, is that they are part of an ongoing armed conflict. We can argue whether Congressional authorization for hostilities absent a formal declaration of war is Constitutional, but for the time being it is. In WW2 a very small number of ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) returned to Germany to fight for the Nazis. If hypothetically one of these people were an American citizen and were identified as being a high ranking Nazi, would the Army Air Force have had to offer him a jury trial before dropping a bomb on his headquarters? If the US captured an American citizen (perhaps by birth to US citizen abroad) fighting for North Vietnam, in South Vietnam, would they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, in front of a US court, that he was fighting, before interning him as a POW?
Note, as for the guy was killed in Yemen, he was killed in an attack at his parents (or extended family house) and not on the battlefield. It was per-calculated elimination hit. Back then, I listened to a report on NPR after his killing that many on the left are questioning the legality of such attack.
by Beiruty
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2079

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

rotor wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:06 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:53 pm
Chaparral wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:48 pm
Yeah, I guess. Like Putin poisoning Litvinenko with Polonium, and Skripal with Novichok.
Add to that the killing of Arafat by the Mossad (Polonium or other radiating matter)
You have definitive proof of that statement?
Definite proof?, I m sorry I cannot claim that. Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_of_ ... h_polonium and get your own conclusion. Note, polonium was found in his remains.
by Beiruty
Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:53 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2079

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

Chaparral wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:48 pm
Yeah, I guess. Like Putin poisoning Litvinenko with Polonium, and Skripal with Novichok.
Add to that the probably killing of Arafat by the Mossad (Polonium or other radiating matter)
by Beiruty
Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2079

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

Just to Clarify, KSA and Al Saoud are protocrate of the British Empire since 200 yrs ago. After world war 2 US took over that role. President Trump said loud and clear without US protection Al Saoud House would be deposed
by Beiruty
Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:32 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2079

Extrajudicial Killing

In US, extrajudicial Killing (assisination) is legal if and only if the president of United States delcated the target,a US citizen, as enemy combatant and ordered his elimination.

First of all, the above is unconstitutional but no one cared about that fact. Obama did use his unconstitutional authority in the case of US Citizen eliminated in Yemen by hellfire attack.

In KSA, MBS thought that what goes for goose goes for the gander and ordered the elimination of KSA citizen by declaring him a traitor.

I do not see any difference but the political storm is like day and night.

Note, my post is not to start a flame war or defend anyone, rather to discuss historical facts and incidents in colocial terms.

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