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by J.R.@A&M
Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: School activity involving homeschoolers
Replies: 23
Views: 7050

Re: School activity involving homeschoolers

WildBill wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:48 pm
Flightmare wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:50 pm
jmra wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:06 pm
Flightmare wrote: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:26 am Maybe I'm just missing it in the text of the penal code, but I do not see the words "certified" or "accredited" used to qualify a school. It simply says:
"School" means a private or public elementary or secondary school.
Only place I found it defined was 46.11

If Leeper v Arlington ISD did define home schooling as a private school, then it would make sense that group sponsored activities (such as organized athletics, graduations, science fairs, etc) would be prohibited locations, just as if they were at any other private or public school.

I'm no lawyer though, nor have I recently stayed at a Holiday Inn.
If that were so (which it isn’t) every homeschool household would be a prohibited place.
TX PC 46.03 PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, location-restricted knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless:

(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution;
Emphasis mine. My non-lawyer understanding reads that as since you are in control of the "institution", you may grant yourself permission to carry. Again, I'm no lawyer and I welcome any corrections to my understanding.
I am not a lawyer either, but I don't think that a home school meets the definition of an institution. I think that the term is being confused with a building, premise or property.
Institution . Establishment, foundation, or organization created to pursue a particular type of endeavor, such as banking by a financial institution.
2. Consistent and organized pattern of behavior or activities (established by law or custom) that is self-regulating in accordance with generally accepted norms.
Again, we’re talking about two different things: 1) The “school activity” status of an individual home school, and 2) the “school activity” status of an organization, cooperative, or business that provides services to gatherings of homeschoolers.

I never gave a thought to item 1), me being the superintendent-principle-school-board-president-armed janitor, etc. It’s the second item that prompted my original question.
by J.R.@A&M
Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: School activity involving homeschoolers
Replies: 23
Views: 7050

Re: School activity involving homeschoolers

Charles L. Cotton wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:52 am
Flightmare wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:00 am
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:42 am I know very little about home-schooling, other than it works very well. Are these collectives certified schools? If not, then my personal opinion is that they are nothing more than a gathering of people for learning purposes. Again, that's my person opinion, not a legal opinion. I have not researched the issue.

Also, "home school" is a term of art referring to teaching your kids outside of an organized school. Nothing about teaching your kid math at the kitchen table transforms your home into a school building.

Chas.
The question I think some people are having is that if a home school group (there are non-profit co-ops that can number in hundreds of families) that participate in organized athletics, or graduation ceremonies...would the premises leased, controlled and used by the co-op during those events be considered off-limits during the event?
That's why I asked if these co-ops are certified schools.

Chas.
Flightmare’s question is the very question I am asking, now in addition to Charles’ question, for which I also do not have the answer. Agree with OLJ that the general question of “school activities” is somewhat fuzzy. Thanks for all the thoughts and comments.
by J.R.@A&M
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: School activity involving homeschoolers
Replies: 23
Views: 7050

Re: School activity involving homeschoolers

Alf wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:11 pm I gave myself written authorization to carry at all homeschool activities.
As have I, but it is the collective gatherings that I am wondering about - under the auspices of local homeschool organizations and cooperatives.
by J.R.@A&M
Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: School activity involving homeschoolers
Replies: 23
Views: 7050

School activity involving homeschoolers

Does the statutory restriction on carrying during a school activity make any distinction between public and private schools? My reason for asking is that we participate in lots of gatherings of homeschool kids (at parks, museums, and private businesses catering to homeschoolers like gyms). My nonlawyerly view of home schools is that they are like private schools.

So, am I restricteded by law from carrying at any organiZed gathering of homeschoolers? (I am not asking about whether the museum, gym, etc. is 30.06 restricted or not).

Thanks, a new homeschool parent.

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