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Grundy1133 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:07 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:54 pm

Grundy1133 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:48 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:40 pm

Grundy1133 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:45 am I think LEOs should be able to carry anywhere because they are the authority that uphold the law. Just like I feel that citizens should be able to carry anywhere because we are the immediate authority of our own well being. a LEO wouldn't want to be caught in a situation without his gun wishing he had it, just as a citizen wouldn't. Some people can argue well LEOs have had training. so have we as citizens. granted LEOS have had much more extensive training than we have, but we are both recognized by the state as capable and competent firearm carriers and I don't think LEOs or civilians should have to disarm. If the state trusts us with a gun, I feel that 30.06 30.07 companies should have to trust us too. Yeah, I know that business owners have the right to not allow guns on their property. UNLESS you're a LEO. That's where the whole "special treatment" issue crops up for me. we are both recognized by the state as being responsible gun owners so why can't I carry places that only LEOs can? We've both gone thru the process of taking the tests and traning to be able to carry a handgun as per the state requirements. I don't feel as tho LEOs should get special treatment when it comes to carrying a gun. I feel at this point im kinda repeating myself, its 1AM cut me some slack haha. I think i'll end this rant now.

What training have you had?

the same written and proficiency exams that all LTC holders go thru.

Sorry, but the proficiency (or qualifying) with a handguns is definite not training and in here lies the problem.

call it what you want it's good enough for the state of texas. ive legally passed allt he requirements as defined by the state of texas to legally carry a handgun. i shouldn't be kept from doing so, same as LEOs. regarless of what you consider "traning" the leo has met his requirements, as have I. It's the fact that LEOs get special treatment. "here in lies the problem"

Grundy1133 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:48 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:40 pm

Grundy1133 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:45 am I think LEOs should be able to carry anywhere because they are the authority that uphold the law. Just like I feel that citizens should be able to carry anywhere because we are the immediate authority of our own well being. a LEO wouldn't want to be caught in a situation without his gun wishing he had it, just as a citizen wouldn't. Some people can argue well LEOs have had training. so have we as citizens. granted LEOS have had much more extensive training than we have, but we are both recognized by the state as capable and competent firearm carriers and I don't think LEOs or civilians should have to disarm. If the state trusts us with a gun, I feel that 30.06 30.07 companies should have to trust us too. Yeah, I know that business owners have the right to not allow guns on their property. UNLESS you're a LEO. That's where the whole "special treatment" issue crops up for me. we are both recognized by the state as being responsible gun owners so why can't I carry places that only LEOs can? We've both gone thru the process of taking the tests and traning to be able to carry a handgun as per the state requirements. I don't feel as tho LEOs should get special treatment when it comes to carrying a gun. I feel at this point im kinda repeating myself, its 1AM cut me some slack haha. I think i'll end this rant now.

What training have you had?

the same written and proficiency exams that all LTC holders go thru.

Grundy1133 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:45 am I think LEOs should be able to carry anywhere because they are the authority that uphold the law. Just like I feel that citizens should be able to carry anywhere because we are the immediate authority of our own well being. a LEO wouldn't want to be caught in a situation without his gun wishing he had it, just as a citizen wouldn't. Some people can argue well LEOs have had training. so have we as citizens. granted LEOS have had much more extensive training than we have, but we are both recognized by the state as capable and competent firearm carriers and I don't think LEOs or civilians should have to disarm. If the state trusts us with a gun, I feel that 30.06 30.07 companies should have to trust us too. Yeah, I know that business owners have the right to not allow guns on their property. UNLESS you're a LEO. That's where the whole "special treatment" issue crops up for me. we are both recognized by the state as being responsible gun owners so why can't I carry places that only LEOs can? We've both gone thru the process of taking the tests and traning to be able to carry a handgun as per the state requirements. I don't feel as tho LEOs should get special treatment when it comes to carrying a gun. I feel at this point im kinda repeating myself, its 1AM cut me some slack haha. I think i'll end this rant now.

BBYC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:05 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:08 pm

NNT wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:05 pm

OlBill wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:36 pm

NNT wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:35 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:14 am The cop didn't have to disarm all he had to do was cover it up. Just like us of the lower classes are required to do. What bothers me is that people for some reason this guy is entitled more than the rest of us.

I’m not a LEO but it’s seems logical if he has his badge on display he is representing himself as a LEO, and a gun and a badge are a matched set. Why would a uniform even come into the conversation? He does have special rights. He can arrest people, that’s a special right. Doesn’t make him royalty, but he should be able to carry the tools of his trade.

It's not a right. It's a delegated authority.

What’s the difference.? All “rights” are delegated from somewhere/someone. Constitution, God, nature, HOA, My boss...bottom line he has the authority. Symantics.

And for all of those that like to OC and not cover up if you want the authority so you can even carry in Whataburger then do the Police Academy.

Only the police and military should have handguns.

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:01 pm There are much better burgers than Squataburger; e.g., Legends in Jacksonille, or Hardee's and Carl Jr''s wherever you can find 'em. Did I mention Hardee's or Carl Jr.'s sausage biscuits in the AM?

NNT wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:05 pm

OlBill wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:36 pm

NNT wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:35 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:14 am The cop didn't have to disarm all he had to do was cover it up. Just like us of the lower classes are required to do. What bothers me is that people for some reason this guy is entitled more than the rest of us.

I’m not a LEO but it’s seems logical if he has his badge on display he is representing himself as a LEO, and a gun and a badge are a matched set. Why would a uniform even come into the conversation? He does have special rights. He can arrest people, that’s a special right. Doesn’t make him royalty, but he should be able to carry the tools of his trade.

It's not a right. It's a delegated authority.

What’s the difference.? All “rights” are delegated from somewhere/someone. Constitution, God, nature, HOA, My boss...bottom line he has the authority. Symantics.