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by oldtexan
Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:20 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on all gu
Replies: 20
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Re: McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on al

K.Mooneyham wrote:Yeah, its the "close the gunshow loophole" thing, which means outlawing private, face-to-face sales of firearms between individuals. Now, if you are a money-hungry socialist Democrat Party member, what do you love more than gun control? New sources of "revenue"...getting money out of the pockets of the public to fund social programs, etc. Let me guess that somewhere there is money to be raked in by forcing everyone that wants to buy or sell firearms to go through an FFL...and I don't mean the FFLs will be raking in said money, either.
From the text of the bill. Note the definition of a gun show: "(b) Definitions- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

‘(36) Gun Show- The term ‘gun show’--

‘(A) means any event at which 50 or more firearms are offered or exhibited for sale, exchange, or transfer, if 1 or more of the firearms has been shipped or transported in, or otherwise affects, interstate or foreign commerce;

‘(B) does not include an offer or exhibit of firearms for sale, exchange, or transfer by an individual from the personal collection of that individual, at the private residence of that individual, if the individual is not required to be licensed under section 923; and

‘(C) does not include an offer or exhibit of firearms for sale, exchange, or transfer at events--

‘(i) where not more than 100 firearms are offered or exhibited for sale, exchange or transfer;

‘(ii) that are conducted by private, not-for-profit organizations whose primary purpose is owning and maintaining real property for the purpose of hunting activities; and

‘(iii) that are attended only by permanent or annual dues-paying members of the organizations, and the members of the immediate families of the dues-paying members."

The way I read this it specifically says that a private sale conducted at the private residence of a private seller isn't considered as being part of a gun show, and later on in the text of the bill it only addresses transfers taking place at the gun show as requiring a background check. So the way I read this bill, it would not require a background check for private transfers unless they happen in the context of a gun show. Do you read this bill to say differently?

I added the bold above for clarity.
by oldtexan
Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:41 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on all gu
Replies: 20
Views: 1954

Re: McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on al

The text of this bill is available at this link:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/1 ... dium=email" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is worth a read.
by oldtexan
Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:16 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on all gu
Replies: 20
Views: 1954

Re: McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on al

Teamless wrote:isnt the NICS check considered a background check, or are they talking (possibly) about a waiting period of days/weeks?
I don't know because, as I stated in the original post, no text of the bill was available when I started the thread. I haven't checked Thomas.loc.gov or govtrack.us since late Friday because I doubt the folks uploading info into Thomas work on weekends. I included all the info I had on the bill. When I get more info I'll update the thread.
by oldtexan
Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:33 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on all gu
Replies: 20
Views: 1954

McCarthy files H.R.141, requiring background check on all gu

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D, NY, filed H.R.141, a bill to require a background check on all firearms sales, yesterday. This type of bill has been referred to as "closing the gun show loophole". No text is available on thomas.loc.gov or govtrack.us .

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