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by nitrogen
Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:46 pm
Forum: Goals for 2007
Topic: Bill of NON-Rights
Replies: 5
Views: 7883

TxFire wrote:
nitrogen wrote: Also, to clear up a point made in the piece. I'm a stickler for facts, so while I agree with the main idea of the post, "In God We Trust" is NOT part of our nations history and heritage. It became the official motto of the US on July 30, 1956. The motto beforehand was "E Pluribus Unum. (From many, one)

The first time "In God We Trust" appeared on anything was in 1856, on the 2 cent piece. Never was it widely circulated until 1956.
I have to disagree then also. One portion of the definition of history from Webster is events of the past and for heritage one meaning is listed as something transmitted by or acquired from a predecessor. So I would say that "In God we trust" is a part of the United States history and heritage regardless of weather or not it was used from the VERY beginning. It is just more recent history than most believe. We are just getting into semantics though. :lol:
Absolutely. I wouldn't even argue that we're slowly turning into a (Judeo?) christian nation, even if our founders didn't want or didn't intend for it to be so. I'd also argue against a lot of the supposed pushback on it becoming one. As long as we're not executing people for apostacy, I've got no problem with a lot of the "values" push in this country; I personally just want to make sure that we don't start limiting people who don't believe.

And to the original poster, I wasn't impuning your honesty or intent, sorry if it came out that way. I agree with the general feeling and intent of the article, but, being a nitpicker, I have to pick nits! :grin:
by nitrogen
Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:30 am
Forum: Goals for 2007
Topic: Bill of NON-Rights
Replies: 5
Views: 7883

First of all, Mitchell Kaye didn't write this:
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/norights.htm
"The famed "Bill of No Rights" was written in 1993 by Lewis Napper, a self-described amateur philosopher and from Mississippi who ran for a U.S. Senate seat in 2000 as a Libertarian."

Also, to clear up a point made in the piece. I'm a stickler for facts, so while I agree with the main idea of the post, "In God We Trust" is NOT part of our nations history and heritage. It became the official motto of the US on July 30, 1956. The motto beforehand was "E Pluribus Unum. (From many, one)

The first time "In God We Trust" appeared on anything was in 1856, on the 2 cent piece. Never was it widely circulated until 1956.

Also, most of our founding fathers were not christians, they were Diests. Bascially this means they believed in God, but not that the bible was the word of God. (I'm a Jew and disagree with this, but hey, our founding fathers were great, but nobody's perfect...)

Not that I disagree with most of this post, but I am also not in favor of lying or misrepresenting facts to make an emotional argument. I am not in favor of using the tools of the super-duper far left... :oops:

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