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harrycallahan wrote:While I believe some new signs preventing Open Carry will appear, I think that the majority of businesses will update their 30.06 signage to be compliant with the new law and instruct management to give verbal warnings (30.07) to prevent OC.

Taypo wrote:Maybe something is getting lost in the Internet here, so I want to make sure I'm not missing something.

You go into a private business openly carrying, you are asked by an employee to leave and you feel like you're entitled to speak to someone else because that employee wasn't a manager or owner?

Right2Carry wrote:

CleverNickname wrote:

suthdj wrote:So on Jan 1 when I walk into IKEA I just need to tuck in my shirt unless they post a 30.07

Well, there is the fact that it will be obvious that you're carrying, so assuming Ikea doesn't want anyone carrying in their stores, no matter the method, then all that will be required is verbal notification telling you to leave.

I wonder if any store employee can give verbal notice or does it need to be a member of management?

C-dub wrote:

jmra wrote:

casp625 wrote:So... If I am wearing OWB with a really thin shirt and come across a 30.07 sign, will pulling my shirt over and having extreme printing be considered OC or CC? Technically, that could be considered partially visible/wholly visible since anyone would be able to tell there is a holster handgun underneath the shirt. I guess an owner could always just verbally tell me to leave otherwise.

It would be concealed carry. There is no "printing" law.

I'm not so sure. Just because it has a thin layer of material over it doesn't necessarily mean it is concealed. A holstered gun under a really thin shirt with extreme printing may be openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person that it is a gun.

(3) “Concealed handgun” means a handgun, the presence of which is not
openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person.

casp625 wrote:So... If I am wearing OWB with a really thin shirt and come across a 30.07 sign, will pulling my shirt over and having extreme printing be considered OC or CC? Technically, that could be considered partially visible/wholly visible since anyone would be able to tell there is a holster handgun underneath the shirt. I guess an owner could always just verbally tell me to leave otherwise.

Salty1 wrote:

TexasGal wrote:I am just hoping everyone who is super eager to carry openly exercise a little sensitivity or we may well see a lot of new signage. Too many people have been led by the media to think we are all the same as OCT and the like. It was videos of those wanna be's that were put on the screen just about every time open carry was covered. Let's try our best to "look" and behave a lot better than that to people who seriously may feel afraid or offended at first. Heck, I already have a friend asking me where he can get 30.07 signs for his business. He has a CHL and is not opposed to the open carry law but he is opposed to having to deal with his customer's views on it.

Rather than be in a panic mode your friend should wait and see if his customers actually say anything about somebody open carrying. Saying that he has a CHL and is not opposed to the OC law and he is looking for a 30.07 sign is a bit hypocritical. I hope he realizes that the sign will also offend the CC crowd and cost him business as well..... Although I doubt that I will ever OC, I will not support any business that posts 30.07 signs the same way as I do 30.06, to me they both want to ban firearms and the people who carry them legally........

His business his choice, my money my choice!!!!!

TexasGal wrote:I am just hoping everyone who is super eager to carry openly exercise a little sensitivity or we may well see a lot of new signage. Too many people have been led by the media to think we are all the same as OCT and the like. It was videos of those wanna be's that were put on the screen just about every time open carry was covered. Let's try our best to "look" and behave a lot better than that to people who seriously may feel afraid or offended at first. Heck, I already have a friend asking me where he can get 30.07 signs for his business. He has a CHL and is not opposed to the open carry law but he is opposed to having to deal with his customer's views on it.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:What's the new signage going to be? Big, ugly X 2!

Seriously, I must admit I never thought I'd see the day when the Legislature would pass a requirement for two signs. I am thrilled to have been wrong. Even the OCT bills that never got a hearing intentionally gutted TPC §30.06, but a lot of work by Alice and Tara pulled it off. Good work ladies.

Chas.

Ruark wrote:It just crossed my mind that some places have the 3006 text etched into the glass. They're going to be ticked off at having to replace it because of a couple of changed words.

rotor wrote:

jmra wrote:

rotor wrote:So, correct me if I am wrong

on Jan 1, 2016 New 30.06 sign will be needed , one in English and one in Spanish at a single location at a main entrance, 1" block letters, etc.

A 30.07 sign, exact wording, etc. at each entrance.

Possible any combination of above although I doubt they would post a 30.06 but not a 30.07. Stores are going to need a lot of sign space to post all of these things.

Where did "single location at a main entrance" come from? I haven't seen that wording. 30.06 does not require separate signs with one in Spanish and one in English. It does require the wording in both English and Spanish but typically that is all on one sign.

That's why I said correct me if I am wrong. 30.06 sign (one sign in English and Spanish combined) but only required at a single location at main entrance as far as I know. There is no requirement to post 30.06 at every entrance is there? With 30.07 there is. Yes?

rotor wrote:So, correct me if I am wrong

on Jan 1, 2016 New 30.06 sign will be needed , one in English and one in Spanish at a single location at a main entrance, 1" block letters, etc.

A 30.07 sign, exact wording, etc. at each entrance.

Possible any combination of above although I doubt they would post a 30.06 but not a 30.07. Stores are going to need a lot of sign space to post all of these things.