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by RHenriksen
Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:01 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

Just placed a follow up call to Brandy, a legislative aide w. Kleinschmidt's office. She did pass along my (our?) objections to HB1463 to him. She said he disagrees that it's elitist and I get the impression he has his heels dug against about the idea of changing the bill to apply to all CHL holders. Bah.

I've sent emails to all members of the homeland security committee expressing support for HB750 (campus carry) and objecting to HB 698 (special exemptions for school board members allowing them, and only them, to carry at school board meetings). I'll be doing the same if/when HB1463 goes to committee...
by RHenriksen
Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:14 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

The underlying logic of these bills is need-based exemptions to restrictions. I told Kleinschmidt's staff that based on that logic, my wife should also be allowed to carry in areas normally restricted to CHL holders.

Why? Well, I'm a healthy adult male, 6', 180#, and have a 3rd degree black belt. But my wife is 4'10", 105#, petite/attractive/Asian. Surely she's both more of a target, and more vulnerable? So she should also be allowed to carry in all the areas where they feel that elected officials should also get an exemption - and where my own need for self-defense is deemed to be less important than some nebulous, perceived public good.
by RHenriksen
Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:32 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

I'd just like to say I have a big warm fuzzy that we've got some legislators' phones ringing today! Please keep up the good work - anyone on this thread who hasn't let their fingers do some walking, please take 5 minutes to do so this afternoon...
by RHenriksen
Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:14 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

chasfm11 wrote:I've placed a call to my representative, too, my story is going to be a little different.

I'd rather see this bill amended to include CHLs, regardless of what the bill was originally intended to do, than to see it defeated completely. A good way to prove that it isn't elitist in intent is to make sure that it doesn't just cover the Legislators.
Thanks for the idea - I went ahead & called my rep's office as well - they hadn't heard of 1463 yet, and I let them know that I'd love to see it passed *if* amended to include all CHL holders. Or shot down in flames if it moves forward as originally written (ie, 'let them eat cake!').
by RHenriksen
Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:56 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

ELB wrote:Talk about tone-deaf. This is a perfect way to alienate Texas 2A supporters. The comments above are correct -- this is the kind of nonsense I would expect to see in California or New York, not Texas.

Sorry, but this dog don't hunt. He is not filing the bill because threats can happen to people anywhere -- he is filing it because of all those people there, legislators are the only ones important enough to be able to protect themselves with a gun in certain venues. Eveyone else is just too immature or unimportant.

Look, Judges and prosectors got special exemptions for themselves too, and it hasn't done squat for citizens.

So since legislators are clearly so dangerous to have around, here is a better law: restrict legislators as to where they can go. No sporting events, no hospitals, no schools, no bars, nada -- in fact, just lock them up in the State Capitol until the end of their term. It's for the children.

Look, the Republicans got elected in droves last December because the Democrats got waaaaaaaayy too big for their britches and disregarded the people. The big fear and warning of Tea Partiers and everyone else is that the Republicans would do what they did the last time they got control --- forget who brought them to the dance and turn into a bunch of power-mad, self-centered elitests. We are watching the national and local legislators like hawks, and a stunt like this, a special carve out for legislators but not citizens, is EXACTLY the kind of "power corrupts," hey-I'm-special-privileges-for-me-but-not-the-little-people foolishness that will get them booted.

Kleinschmidt might usually be an OK guy, but this is a clueless move. If he doesn't realize that, then he is already corrupted. And if he think being a legislator is too dangerous -- there's plenty of people in his district that would be happy to take his place.

NO. NO. NO!

Now I am going to get on the phone to the Capitol.
Nicely said, and *please* do call the Rep's office. I just got off of the phone w. his legislative assistant, Brandy. Had a good conversation with her, and she swears up and down that he's not an elitist, that wasn't the intent, that this bill was brought to their office by DPS after DPS had been getting complaints/concerns about post-AZ paranoia, etc. She said she'd already heard from another forum member here, she's been reading this website, etc etc and that she's going to speak w. Kleinschmidt Monday when he returns to the Austin office. More voices will help - their office # is 512-463-0682.

I told her that the idea of removing some of the 'off limits' areas currently in effect was a WONDERFUL idea, and that I completely support his efforts - but WITHOUT the 'elected officials only' limitation. He should be all means push forward vigorously w. his bill... as soon as he retracts, amends, refiles, whatever - the offending portion.
by RHenriksen
Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:39 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

WildBill wrote:
Teamless wrote:Even if the end game is 'eventually' it helps CHLs, when? how? and Why is it good for the goose but not the gander?
Baby steps.
While I understand that logic, I also think that the November election results represent strong push-back from the electorate against politics as usual. And this sort of 'feathering ones own nest' behavior is a classic example of wrong-headed thinking by our elected officials. Why not pressure them to take their horrible idea, and turn it into a wonderful idea, by making it inclusive of ALL of us card-carrying 'good guys'?
by RHenriksen
Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:13 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

Right2Carry wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Every step we take away from traditional law enforcement in terms of allowing concealed carry in new locations, the better the chance of getting what Rick Perry wants -- all CHL's to be exempt as are law enforcement.

I understand the sentiment, but this could be helpful in moving the CHL "not applicable" provisions from merely applying to TPC §46.02 to TPC §§46.02, 46.03, 46.035. It would be a powerful argument for 2013 to attend a public hearing and say "why should you be exempt, but not the voters in your district?"

Again, I understand the sentiment and this is not a TSRA/NRA bill, nevertheless, it could be very useful in greatly reducing or eliminating areas off-limits to CHLs.

Chas.
Charles I do understand your points, but to me this is just more elitist behaviour from those who have been elected to be the voice of the people. This is a self serving bill for those that put themselves above the people they pretend to represent. IMHO if it's good enough for elected officials that hold a CHL, then it should be good enough for everyone that holds a CHL. Our elected officials haven't attended any additional training or background checks than any other CHL so why should they be treated any differently than anyone else who holds a CHL?
I concur - I would MUCH rather encourage a re-write of the existing bill to apply to ALL CHL holders, rather than let the existing elitist attitudes become yet further ingrained, only to go hat in hand later and ask if we the great unwashed masses be allowed the same privileges that the superior classes have granted themselves.
by RHenriksen
Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:52 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.035
Replies: 103
Views: 46620

Re: HB 1463--exempting elected officials from parts of 46.03

Amen. This is even worse than HB 698.

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Off with their heads!

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