That's refreshing to hear. Assuming unions oppose ensuring their members are fit & caPable to do their job (which would seem to be a good way to improve their odds of being safe), I wonder how many negotiators are aware of that court decision?srothstein wrote:flb_78 wrote:I they're good shots, they shouldn't have to run to chase a BG.
There was actually a court case over this. IIRC it was out of the DC Court of Appeals (sorry, I do not remember the citation and may have the court wrong). The case involved an officer who shot a suspect because he was in poor condition and could not continue to fight.
As is proper IMO, the court ruled that it was excessive force. Keeping fit is part of the job and the need was foreseeable, so not doing so was negligence and made the shooting a bad shoot. I used this in my classes to try to convince officers to stay fit.
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- Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:02 pm
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- Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:42 pm
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No worries, Keith, I don't think we're really all that far apart. I do think it's wiser to at least provide some facilities & accommodation for being in shape; but ultimately the individual officers have to fish or cut bait.
- Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:58 am
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Whether we should have to pay them to maintain their fitness is debatable. But... 'subjected to fast food stops'? You make it sound like they're passive victims of McDonald's. What ever happened to personal responsibility? If I can pack a lunch, or hit Souper Salad for lunch, or order a tuna fish & fruit plate at Jason's Deli, so can they. They're big boys.Keith B wrote:In the defense of the officers, I will say that they have a mainly sedentary job riding around in a car. The are subjected to fast food stops and many times don't have time to get a more healthy meal.
- Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:24 pm
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WHY, o why, are police not required to maintain an adequate level of physical fitness?