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by troglodyte
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: El Paso Walmart Shooting
Replies: 185
Views: 14774

Re: El Paso Walmart Shooting

Oldgringo wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:00 am
philip964 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:29 pm
https://www.click2houston.com/news/nati ... -about-gun

Shooters mom called police worried about her son buying an AK47 considering his age and maturity level.

Didn’t mention that pesky kill list he made in high school.

Police apparently said it was all legal.

CNN? I don't trust CNN for nothing!
Our local station said she didn’t identify herself or release her son’s name. Not that the police couldn’t have figured it out. Just that there apparently wasn’t any case for alarm at the time.

We’ll learn more in the coming days I’m sure.
by troglodyte
Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:17 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: El Paso Walmart Shooting
Replies: 185
Views: 14774

Re: El Paso Walmart Shooting

txbirddog wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:09 pm
While we constitute a large number that support and commit to carrying, we are only a group of <4% of the population. So if there were 200 (arbitrary number) in Walmart at the time of shooting, there would have been approximately 8 with an LTC. Given, unfortunately, that all who have an LTC, carry on a consistent basis, there may have been, let’s say 5 that were actually armed and of those 5, 3 who were trained and maybe then 1 who would actually engage the shooter.

So even in Texas the odds favor the evil among us. This is why it’s SO important to talk others into our fold and even more for us to CARRY EVERYDAY AND EVERYWHERE.
Having an LTC does not obligate you to seek and destroy the killer. Like several have mentioned, they would secure themselves and their family and cover the egress. If they can gather up people on the way, then even better. There is no shame in that and is a sound tactical move. If you don't know the location of the shooter(s) and aren't very familiar with the floor plan of the location then heading into the fire without armor and a rifle may not be the wisest move . I also suspect that if the LTC is in the same immediate area the killer is in then they are more likely to engage as they are immediately threatened and understand the situation at hand.

What must happen for us, as a society, to severally curtail these events is to have a much higher percentage of LTCs so when the guy walks in and open fires 3 or 4 individuals in the immediate area draw and hit him with 12 rounds. It's no different than the thinking behind Run, Hide, Fight and similar training. Overpower him with numbers. If 3 or 4 pistol wielders shot him at the first sign then these evil people would think twice about their actions. It would be over almost as fast as it began. There likely would be casualties but I venture the numbers would be a lot less. As a result I see the instances of mass shootings declining.

Undoubtedly this is a societal issue and one we must address but we need to meet this evil with firepower in the meantime.

(There's a lot more to it than this but I'm already late to work. You get the basic drift)

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