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by surprise_i'm_armed
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:19 pm
Forum: Closed Items
Topic: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.
Replies: 24
Views: 9421

Re: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.

Yes, I would say the time spent was worth it. We had no idea how the event was to unfold, so attending was somewhat akin to open a gift-wrapped package. Everything was going to be an unforeseen surprise.

Should some other LEO agency hold an auction, I might go to that one too, just to see who in the wide, wide world of sports wants to plunk down serious coin for a collection of someone else's choosing.

Yes, the "no holsters" rule was a new one on me. But where I thought I would get some comments on this thread was the ID'ing of the bidders and calling in the DL information to someone who was not at the venue. Plus the email and phone numbers. But they never asked for LTC's, even though it was a gun sale.

SIA
by surprise_i'm_armed
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Closed Items
Topic: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.
Replies: 24
Views: 9421

Re: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.

So, yesterday was the auction. Strogg and I carpooled out there together from Denton County.

The other day the deputy I spoke with said "no guns or ammo" will be allowed. We figured knives would also be forbidden. So we leave all our handguns and knives in the truck. We get to the security checkpoint. I was turned away since I still had my XDS OWB and my LCR OWB holsters on my belt (empty). "No holsters allowed". 1st trip back to the truck to get rid of holsters.
Strogg then had to go back to the truck since they didn't like the look of his flashlight - 2nd trip back to the truck to drop it off.

We had to take off our boots and belts, plus all pocket contents, to go through the metal detector. Oops, I forgot I had a casecutter. I just let them keep it. I've got plenty. Strogg passed this time. But they never noticed his handcuff key! Yuck, yuck.

They had 4 women at a table just outside the courtroom, checking the ID's of all who wanted to bid. They required DL, telephone number, and email address. They were calling somebody and giving the DL information. Apparently they wanted to pre-check that no felons were going to be attending the auction. It seems to me that they should have been asking for LTC, but they never did.

I would estimate that there were approximately 50 bidders in the courtroom for the auction, with a few friends who were not bidding.
The event had a pretty big crowd. I couldn't tell where anyone was from, except for 1 guy who had on a Coppell, TX jacket.

The attorney seemed to be from a private law firm (not a Kaufman County official lawyer) and laid out the rules for the auction. He said that the firearms had been seized for non-payment of business property taxes. So, it would seem they came from a local gun store FFL, or pawn shop FFL.

The firearms were laid out on a table for the bidders to look over.

Pistols: The Beretta was a pink Nano. No thanks.
The CZ100 was black and of no interest to me since it was a very old CZ, and had terrible reviews for a bad trigger.
The Glock was a 43, and appeared to be the newest of all the weapons.
The Springfield Armory was a used XD45, all black, and sported a price tag of $499.99.

Shotguns: There were 4 of them. The Benelli seemed to be an entry level model, all black, pump.
The other 3 didn't seem too special.

Rifles - As listed in the link.

What was somewhat puzzling was that all the firearms had price tags on them. It was unclear if these had been put on by the person from whom they were seized, or if the KCSO had affixed them. These prices were retail or more for each firearm.

Before starting the auction, the lawyer laid down the rules. He advised the crowd to not even bid if they have legal problems or owe any property taxes from prior tax years.
If they won the bid, paid the money, and were later found to be in violation, their money would be forfeited.
The initial offering would be all 18 firearms sold in 1 lot. The opening bid would be $7,500.
If no one took the entire lot, the guns would then be auctioned 1 at a time. All sales would be cash. No checks, no plastic.
The figure for the entire lot, $7500, was chosen since that was about the tax debt owed. Not because anyone had really assessed the worth of the 18 guns.

The initial link to the KCSO stated that the transfer fee would be $20, but when we got the handout at the auction, the transfer fee was quoted to be $25. Bait and switch a little.

At the conclusion of the auction, the firearms could not be taken home. They were to be picked up at an FFL in a town I never heard of, and could not find on a Texas map. Talty?? The guns were to be picked up on 1/24/20, between 10 AM and 500 PM. If not picked up, the bidder would lose their money and the guns would be re-sold.

On to the auction!!!
The auctioneer opened up and asked if anyone bid $7500 for the entire lot. A guy 2 rows behind me bid $7500. At that point the courtroom became chaotic because everyone that wanted to buy single guns stood up and started to exit. But the bidding was going strong! Within 60 seconds, I am not kidding, it became a bidding war between apparently only the initial bidder and 1 other guy. The bids were going up fast at $100 each time.
Yes, within 60 seconds, the winning bid for the entire lot was $8,600!!!

At $7500 for 18 guns, each gun would have gone for $416.67.
At $8,600 for 18 guns, each gun was sold for an average price of $477.78.

Strogg and I were stunned that someone had $8600 cash for that assortment. So that's the story of Kaufman County's 1st firearms auction.

Comments on this are encouraged!!

SIA
by surprise_i'm_armed
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Closed Items
Topic: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.
Replies: 24
Views: 9421

Re: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.

Today I spoke with a deputy at KCSO.

The firearm auction is to be held in a court room that is used for family issues. If those proceedings are done early enough, the firearms should be displayed about 400 PM, one hour before the start of the auction at 500 PM. YMMV.

The guns should be displayed for inspection, but handling them will not be allowed.

This is KCSO's first firearm auction and they have no idea of the size of the crowd.

Since it's a courthouse, all attendees will need to leave firearms and ammo in their vehicles.

SIA
by surprise_i'm_armed
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: Closed Items
Topic: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.
Replies: 24
Views: 9421

Re: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.

This coming Thursday, strogg and I are going to travel ~ 57 miles from my place to this Kaufman auction. I will call Kaufman County Monday and see if we can get there 1 hour early, at 400 PM, in order to eyeball the offerings. The auction will be 500-600 PM, which will enable many possible bidders to get out of work before attending.

It should be an interesting little trip. It seems like the auction could go 1 of 2 ways:
1. The advertising of this event won't have reached many people, not many will attend, and bargains may be had.
2. It WILL attract many people, possibly even some collector/dealer willing to plunk down $7500 cash for the entire lot, and everyone else will go home empty-handed.

After we attend this auction, I will update this thread with what happened. Film at 11. :-)

SIA
by surprise_i'm_armed
Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Closed Items
Topic: Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.
Replies: 24
Views: 9421

Kaufman County TX, 1-23-20: 18 seized firearms for sale.

I can't get link to work right now.

Just Google it for details.

4 pistols, 4 shotguns, 10 rifles.

The whole lot for $7500. If no one steps up they will sell singly.

SIA

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