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by philip964
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/ ... e-charges/

Grand jury decides not to indict volunteer who shot church shooter dead with some of the best under stress marksmanship we have seen.

DA said they made the right decision.

I’m sort of surprised that this was sent to a grand jury. Is it required?
by philip964
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement

https://nj1015.com/nj-gave-texas-church ... un-felony/

NJ wiped out gun felony of Texas Church gunman.

And it wasn’t like he was some upstanding citizen, and crossed into NJ by mistake with a gun.

Why is that? Let criminals with long histories go free, but law abiding nice people get the book thrown at them.
by philip964
Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement

https://news.yahoo.com/armed-even-churc ... 07681.html

Gun grabbers at USA Today not happy about this church shooting.
by philip964
Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement

troglodyte wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:25 pm https://apnews.com/856bfff9dc582b934ff8f60c7cb3af28

In 2012, a district judge in Oklahoma ruled him mentally incompetent to stand trial and ordered him committed to a psychiatric facility for treatment.

Kinnunen was charged with felony assault and battery with a dangerous weapon after he attacked the owner of a Chickasha, Oklahoma, doughnut shop in 2011, court records state. He was separately charged with arson that year after allegedly starting a fire in a cotton field by tying tampons soaked in lamp oil to the crop.

A forensic psychologist who examined Kinnunen in 2012 for both cases wrote that “Kinnunen currently evidences signs that are consistent with a substantial mental illness and that meet the inpatient criteria of a ‘person requiring treatment.’”

Kinnunen got “more and more” into drugs and “it messed with his head” during their marriage, Angela Holloway, whose divorce from him was finalized in 2011, told the AP.

She said that she doesn’t know whether Kinnunen was ever diagnosed with a mental illness and that she wasn’t sure whether he could legally have guns, but that he consistently did.

“I don’t know how he got them; I just know that he did have them,” she said.

In 2016, Kinnunen was arrested in New Jersey and charged with unlawful possession of a firearm. He eventually pleaded guilty to the lesser crime of criminal trespass, court records show. In Texas, he was charged with aggravated assault in 2008 but pleaded down to misdemeanor deadly conduct.
So he could not legally buy a gun. Where did he get the shotgun? Why was he not in a mental institution for his and the public's good? New Jersey? Oklahoma? Mental illness is generally not something you can be cured of.
by philip964
Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:43 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement

Parishioner hero with a license to carry - Security Guard

Hero defender of the congregation - Gunman

These are not accidents or a rush to get a story out, this is ingrained negative bias.

The murderers sister said it was her other brother’s Birthday. He committed suicide in 2008.

Both brothers were on and off homeless. He came to the church often for help. He apparently could quote the Bible. She was unaware of any hard feelings he had for the church as they had always treated him well.

One shot from Mr. Wilson. Two shotgun blasts, but one was supposedly at the ceiling. Three dead. Did I miss something?
by philip964
Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement

The church member closest to the murderer is a hero.

He drew knowing most likely he would die.

Facing down and drawing on a man dressed in black (with a black mask?) at close range holding a shotgun pointed at him takes bravery I do not have.

It gave his friends the few seconds of distraction they needed to save the flock.

RIP

The video was traumatic for me not by what I saw but what I heard. Women screaming in anguish is not something I ever want to hear again. For me it brings back things I would prefer to forget.

I was reluctant to post the video. I realized it might violate the forum rules, but I felt the educational value was worth the risk. I thank the management for understanding.

I pray this will be the last church shooting in Texas.

I fear these cowards will just move to softer targets.
by philip964
Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement



The church service was being live streamed.

Caution. Skipping the ad immediately starts the stream.
by philip964
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement

https://www.click2houston.com/news/2019 ... orth-area/

Says “security guard” murdered. “A dear friend”.

Also says murderer was one of the dead.
by philip964
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement
Replies: 181
Views: 54345

Re: Church shooting in Tarrant County - White Settlement

My prayers for the victims and their family and friends.

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