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Sorry to hear about your issues with your full size 1.0 M&P. I elected to have Dan Burwell do trigger jobs on mine instead of going to APEX. I have 65 K + rounds through my 9 pro that I use in competition and have had no issues with that and only one issue on my older M&P 45s (broken striker on a couple after 10 years of use and thousands of rounds down range). The current version of the strikers are much more robust (came in the 9 pro) and have not had one of those break.

oljames3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:02 pm

I talked to S&W about doing just that. They told me that, if I sanded on the back straps even a small amount, the warranty would be void. They really box us in. Will see what comes back from the third trip.

Does this voiding of the warranty include trigger modifications, sight replacement, or application of grip tape?

They don't care about the sights or grip tape. If you modify the trigger then send the pistol in to them for something else, they will replace all modified trigger parts with new factory trigger parts and send your modified parts back in a bag with the gun. I don't know why they are being so difficult about sanding down the aggressive texture. I know they made this to try to get the military contract but I would prefer the way the 1.0 is made over this. I can add skate board tape where I want it and get things exactly the way I want them.

oljames3 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:52 pm

LTUME1978 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 pm Jeffbird,

I would like to know that as well but they won't send replacements. The ones I have now are so aggressive that I can't wear the pistols inside the waist band as the sides of the back strap are so aggressive. They are also hard on the shirts that I wear for cover garments. It is their nickel to ship the pistols as they issue a call tag but I still have to make the drive to ship them then wait around most of the day when they ship them back. The third trip will be the last, one way or the other.

Sandpaper. Some my buddies who carry their M&P M2.0s concealed use fine sandpaper to gentle the agressive grip. Or they wear a t-shirt. My brother and son carry theirs IWB with no trouble. I just carry OWB openly.

I talked to S&W about doing just that. They told me that, if I sanded on the back straps even a small amount, the warranty would be void. They really box us in. Will see what comes back from the third trip.

Jeffbird,

I would like to know that as well but they won't send replacements. The ones I have now are so aggressive that I can't wear the pistols inside the waist band as the sides of the back strap are so aggressive. They are also hard on the shirts that I wear for cover garments. It is their nickel to ship the pistols as they issue a call tag but I still have to make the drive to ship them then wait around most of the day when they ship them back. The third trip will be the last, one way or the other.

Folks,

I appreciate the replies. All of my 1.0 M&Ps are great once the triggers were tuned up and the sights were replaced. I have made expert is SSP and ESP in IDPA shooting those pistols. My mistake was buying them shortly after they came out. I have heard that there were problems with the early triggers and that changes have been made to the pistols coming out now. I know the back straps are made wrong because they sent me several of the full size (wrong size) 2.0 back straps when I first got the pistols and they are much different (not nearly as aggressive). It just pains me that they will be going back to the factory for the third time for the same reason (it is 1 1/2 hour round trip for me to take them to Fed Ex every time they go back). One would think that they could get this right the first time. Will let you know how this goes. The triggers can be greatly improved by Dan Burwell but the back straps require factory attention.

How many folks have a M&P 2.0? How have they been for you? What is the trigger pull from the factory?

I have several of the 1.0 M&Ps and, after a Burwell trigger job and replacement sights, I have been very happy with them. I bought 2 of the 2.0 compacts last summer to use for the CCP division in IDPA. What a mistake that has turned out to be. They have been to the factory twice for issues (this would have happened quicker if not for work). Just got them back today from round 2 and they are on their way back for the third time. Issues: empty magazines would not drop free of the pistol, original back straps not made correctly (like grabbing a porcupine and not like the back strap on the full size or the current 2.0 pistols), trigger pull between 6 3/4 to 7 pounds instead of the 5 - 5 1/2 pounds they should be. They did fix the issue of the magazines not dropping free but nothing else on the two trips even thought they state that they did on the paper work.

I talked to Burwell about getting trigger jobs done and he said he could make them lighter but could not make other improvements that could be done on the 1.0 M&P triggers because of the design changes that S&W made on the 2.0 triggers.

Similar issues with the rebate magazines. After a very long wait, they sent the wrong magazines. I got a call tag and finally got replacements only to find that those were the wrong magazines as well (they are going back for round three as well).

Am I the only one having these issues?