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G26ster wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:30 pm

Scott in Houston wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:20 am

No. 50's, but he also appeared to be foreign born... either Spain or South America, so maybe new to it here in Texas.

How does one identify someone who is foreign born by their appearance?

“Appearance” is whole package including accent.
Also his hat and eye glasses were very “Euro” looking.

OneGun wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:34 pm Most communication between people is non-verbal. His body language and appearance did not fit. I would have been nervous as well. Someone handling or touching their gun in public and not at a range would make my spidey sense go off.

It also gives ammo to the anti-2A people to complain.

He was looking for attention and got yours. Maybe he wanted some sort of confrontation.

Yeah. I stayed clear of any interaction with him. I could tell the employees found him odd. I stayed at the back of the line and just watched him intently.

I don’t think he had any idea that I was watching him.
I was debating whether to leave or not but didn’t feel right leaving so just watched.

After he left, the employees were passing looks to each other and rolling their eyes about him. Very odd.

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:58 pm

Scott in Houston wrote: ↑Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:46 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:35 pm If you could see the butt of the gun, and it wasn't being carried in a belt or shoulder holster, then he was not legally carrying.

Well, it was not an open carry.
I am 99% sure it would have to be intentional for it to break the law.

This was more of an accidental exposure, which we all know is not illegal.

Got it. My confusion was when you said "I could see the butt fairly easily". If part of the gun can be seen "fairly easily" then I'm not sure it is a valid excuse to say that one really really meant to conceal the gun.

Yeah... I guess that sounded confusing. It was fairly easy for me to spot, because I was scanning him up and down as I knew he was carrying.
I guarantee you nobody else would ever see it, and those who might, probably wouldn't know what they were looking at.

Abraham wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:05 am Given his bizarre behavior...if you see something (wrong) say something.

This guy sounds like a ticking time bomb...

Well, maybe, but his body language and demeanor was fine other than he kept putting his hand in his pocket on the butt. I attributed that to being a newbie at carrying. I remember touching my gun more than I should when I first started carrying. Almost like I was double checking to make sure it's there.

loktite wrote: ↑Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:26 am Maybe someone extremely new to carrying who hasn't soaked in good advice yet. How old? mid 20's - early 30's?

No. 50's, but he also appeared to be foreign born... either Spain or South America, so maybe new to it here in Texas.

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:35 pm If you could see the butt of the gun, and it wasn't being carried in a belt or shoulder holster, then he was not legally carrying.

Well, it was not an open carry.
I am 99% sure it would have to be intentional for it to break the law.

This was more of an accidental exposure, which we all know is not illegal.

This was a first.

I've spotted many others (maybe like 20 people) carrying. I'm always looking and trying to find others who are exercising their 2A, or worse, carrying with malcontent.

Well, today, I was at a business where I spotted someone. It wasn't hard. He was wearing 511 gear, wearing a fanny pack, etc.
The gun, a Glock 19, was actually in his front pocket. I could see the butt fairly easily. So, was he carrying something else in the fanny pack? Probably...

Anyway, normally this makes me happy. I'm pretty sure he was legally carrying. Every other time I've spotted someone, I feel safer... Not this time.

The reasons I was uncomfortable were
1). He was wearing "anti Trump" shirt and hat. Hateful stuff with cuss words ... not just anti-Trump, but hateful. (Note: this isn't a political comment... I didn't even vote for Trump, but it doesn't fit the typical profile of a 511-gear wearing guy, so I felt something a bit off and anyone wearing clothes with cuss words, especially politically motivated, just strikes me as "angry" therefore potentially dangerous).

2). His hand was constantly on it. I was behind him in line, and he kept putting his hand in that pocket and actually grabbing the grip of the Glock. He would put his in, grab it, then bring his hand out to talk or whatever.

This was a new experience, and I haven't posted in a long time, so I thought I'd share.
Was I wrong? (somewhat rhetorically asked because I believe we should always trust our gut, but I feel kind of 'guilty' for judging someone who was likely another legal, law-abiding carrier like all of us).