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parabelum wrote:I remember how Romney was dismantled. Part was him throwing in the towel at someone's request (my opinion), the other part was that for some he wasn't conservative enough, wasn't this or that enough, he is Mormon, some disliked Palin etc etc etc.
So, we got 8 years of this monster in the WH.
Excellent!

Now, I hope that we call all unite and push our nominee across the finish line this time around.

He (Trump) may be liberal on social issues and I may disagree with him on 80% of social issues. When it comes to defense of my Country and Immigration policy alone however, there is no doubt in my mind that given a choice of Trump vs. Pantsuit, I'd sleep better at night knowing that Trump is at the wheel.

But yea, don't vote for him if he's the nominee. Just please don't complain when God forbid that drooling buffoon Sanders orders red brigades to your home.

You don't get it. Even if every Republican that votes votes for Trump, he will still lose. Women hate him. Hispanics hate him. Blacks hate him. He CANNOT win. I know, I'm wasting my breath, but I guarantee you I will be saying I told you so when the smoke clears and the country is gone.

BTW, this is my last word on this. We've already erased the line set by Charles' rules, and I won't participate in erasing it further. I've made my position crystal clear. I won't defend it further.

parabelum wrote:If you don't vote for Trump, if he is the nominee, you are in essence throwing it to Clinton or whatever commie lib traitor they throw down our throats.

Sorry, but that no longer works. If you vote for Trump you are handing the election to Hillary, because Trump cannot beat her. He loses to her even in red states and gets clobbered in blue states. For example, Hillary got 1 MILLION more votes in NY than Trump did.

parabelum wrote:Trump may only give you 40% of what you are looking for, Cruz may give you 90%, Hillary and other lib buzzards will surely take away 100%, and that is a 140% departure from what Trump could deliver.

Trump doesn't give me 1% of what I want. If he were elected (he won't be), he would destroy the US even worse than Hillary would. He has no principles at all, no guiding core that tells him what to do, and he would use the power of the government to get his way just as a dictator would.

I will NOT have my vote associated with such a man, and no amount of whining about losing to Hillary will change my mind. I'd rather have Hillary than Trump. At least with Hillary I know what I'm getting.

parabelum wrote:I get that people are fed up, I'm at the cusp of damning them all myself, but, gotta look what's coming if you choose to sit it out.

Oh, I'm not sitting it out. I will be voting. But not for Trump. Those that do only have themselves to blame.

parabelum wrote:40% of something, or 100% of nothing.

False dichotomy. It's 100% communist or 100% bat crazy authoritarian idiot who will destroy the nation and cause a civil war.

parabelum wrote:Watching them come out of their little rat holes waving Mexican flags in my Country in an effort to suppress Trump, makes my blood boil. I'll do whatever it takes to push our nominee to the front.

Good luck with that. He will lose in a landslide, and all you people who fell for his con will be stunned beyond belief that you could have been fooled so badly.

Scott Farkus wrote:However, on the assumption the Trump gets the nomination, I would beseech you and others to please choke it down one more time and vote for him.

That will never happen. Millions and millions of conservatives will writein Cruz rather than vote for Trump. If Hillary is elected, that's on the GOP and the fools who vote for communists like her. I am done compromising, done talking about compromising and done supporting people who compromise. We are so far from what America is supposed to be that we are on the edge of the cliff. There is no ground left to give, and frankly I will not give any more. You push me, you're going to get pushed back harder. You want to let men into women's bathrooms, you will find me to be an implacable foe. You can spout "rights" and call me bigot until you turn blue. I WILL NOT GIVE AN INCH. I''m done with the GOP. I'm done with weak-kneed lily-livered politicians. Either you stand firmly on the Constitution or get the heck out of my way.

We have two choices now. Save the country or start the revolution.