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oljames3 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:41 pm

Maxwell wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:54 pm I had a coworker in CA ask me: Why didn't anyone fight back?

Not enough people carrying and/or willing to defend.

Crime Prevention Research Center, 2018, published data on the number of license/permit holders by state. Texas was below the national average.
https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-s ... inorities/

So, being generous, 7% of the adults in El Paso might have an LTC. Of that 7&+%, maybe half would be carrying. Of that 7%, maybe 1% have had any training. LTC does not count. http://blog.krtraining.com/beyond-the-o ... nt-part-1/

Pick a number of adults you think were in the Walmart and do the math. How many adults would have to be present for 1 LTC holder, with training, to be present? Way too many.

The Marshal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:51 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:29 pm I am thinking if the cops showed up at an active shooter scene and you were standing there with a gun in your hand they would likely shoot you before you could say much.

There was a man named Glen Oakley that was at the El Paso mall. When the shooting started he DREW his weapon, and tried to move to safety. However he saw several abandoned children, so he moved to them and tried to get them to safety. It says that he did encounter a LEO who wanted to know WHY HE HAD A GUN but who did not shoot Glen. So your test case came out better than you thought!

Glen is being praised for his actions.

https://www.indy100.com/article/el-paso ... us-9038491

LDP wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:55 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:24 pm https://news.yahoo.com/mexico-pursue-le ... 10109.html

Mexico legal action, 7 citizens murdered.

“We consider this an act of terrorism against the Mexican American community and Mexican nationals in the United States,” Ebrard told reporters.

A) What about act of terrorism against all customers present on location?
B) This was not an act of terrorism against Mexico, per the shooter's note, but against all Hispanics.
C) How many Mexican nationals die every day from Mexican drug wars, drug use and other Mexican violence? But nobody's causing ruckus over that.
Theatrical much?

In the end, innocent people died, for no good reason. And the perpetrator is still alive, for no good reason.
Crime happened on this soil and the actor will be judged and punished on this soil as well, by law.

We will see many try to abuse this tragedy to push their own agenda, this is just the beginning.

Liberty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:37 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:30 pm They just reported they have a 21 year old in custody.

CNN claims the mayor, says there are 3 suspects in custody. This doesn't mean there were 3 shooters.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:30 pm They just reported they have a 21 year old in custody.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:30 pm They just reported they have a 21 year old in custody.