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by Rex B
Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:37 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 3285

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

One more good reason for KBH to retire. She's not doing the job we sent here there for.
by Rex B
Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:10 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 3285

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

I got that same email.

Others apparently disagree:

(HELENA) - Moving quickly on Christmas Day after the US Senate voted 86 - 14 to pass the National Defense Authorization Act of 2011 (NDAA) which allows for the indefinite military detention of American citizens without charge or trial, Montanans have announced the launch of recall campaigns against Senators Max Baucus and Jonathan Tester, who voted for the bill.

Facebook: "Recall Every Congressman Who Voted for the NDAA"
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http:/ ... T02jY62oAQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"You don't need to be a meteorologist to know if it's raining outside, and you don't need to be a constitutional scholar to know that permanent wartime powers amounts to the overthrow of the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution. Treason."
http://recallthetraitors.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by Rex B
Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:04 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 3285

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

I've since read quite a bit on this in other sources. One of the best is the Volokh Conspiracy blog, which is written by constitutional scholars and attorneys such as Orin Kerr. The consensus there seems to be that it means what we suspect it means. And it also appears our congresscritters that voted for it knew it also. Some voted to take that wording out, but it was put back in.
by Rex B
Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:37 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 3285

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

Constitutional scholars are taking this on:

http://volokh.com/2011/11/30/defense-bi ... spiracy%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Senate proceedings when Senator Udall introduced his amendment:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenateSession4951" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Start at 4:42 to hear the exchange with Senator Levin which says that the bill that was voted on in the Armed Services Committee originally excluded US Citizens from the detention provision above and that White House requested that the detention of US Citizens be allowed or he would veto the bill.
Therefore, it is the President that wants the authority to detain US Citizens to be in this bill against the original intent of Congress.

The consensus among experts who are MUCH smarter than I seems to be that this is a Bad Thing.
Ironically, it looks like Obama might veto this bill, for all the wrong reasons.
by Rex B
Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:43 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 3285

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

Wow. Looks like a showdown.
by Rex B
Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:48 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 3285

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

Good point. The link came from a trusted source, but may have referred to an earlier version.
The current version has a phrase added

"Section 1032, subsection (b)(1):

The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

subsection (b)(2):

The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
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Using the military as a domestic police force is the troubling part.
by Rex B
Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:46 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 3285

Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

Provisions to allow US military to arrest and detain US citizens on their own property without due process.

http://www.infowars.com/senate-moves-to ... out-trial/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

call your senators
KBH - Phone: 202-224-5922. Fax: 202-224-0776
Cornyn - DC Phone: 202-224-2934 Fax: 202-228-2856

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