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by RoyGBiv
Fri May 28, 2021 8:45 am
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Looking at the enrolled bill, the only changes to 30.06/07 are these... (same for both)
These changes move this language from 46.035, which is going away.
SECTION 18. Section 30.06(c)(2), Penal Code, is amended to
read as follows:
(2)"License holder" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.03.

SECTION19. Section 30.06(e), Penal Code, is amended to
read as follows:
(e)It is an exception to the application of this section
that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is
owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or
other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying
the handgun under Section 46.03.
The new bill does keep the old 46.035 language, just moves it to 46.03
46.03
(3)"License holder" means a person licensed to carry a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
So... I agree with Charles (big surprise :lol: ) that 30.06/07 will still prohibit LTC's...

The question remains as to whether not posting 30.05 would allow an LTC to still carry, since not posting 30.05 would allow any non-prohibited person to carry.
by RoyGBiv
Thu May 27, 2021 3:59 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Given that 46.035 is being deleted, I'd need to check the new language to see if it keeps that 46.035 caveat.
by RoyGBiv
Mon May 24, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Vol Texan wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:54 pm It appears to have passed completely!
Now on to the governor’s desk.

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927
Bueno. :txflag:
by RoyGBiv
Mon May 24, 2021 5:30 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

ELB wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:25 pm The Activities for HB 1927 say the Senate has adopted the conference committee report and a record vote was held. It doesn't give the numbers of yeas and nays, but it looks like the same version of 1927 has been passed by both chambers.
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Hi ... 7#vote1105
Awesome :patriot:
by RoyGBiv
Mon May 24, 2021 3:32 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Papa_Tiger wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 3:09 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 2:17 pm Thanks for this Papa_Tiger. :tiphat:
I would add one item....
Under 46.035 there is a defense to prosecution for Volunteer emergency services personnel who are actively engaged in an emergency activity.

https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code ... 6-035.html
(m) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsections (b) and (c) that the actor is volunteer emergency services personnel engaged in providing emergency services.
Under HB 1927 46.035 goes away and any text that they are keeping is rolled into 46.03.
HB 1927 Conference Committee Report wrote: SECTION 26. The following provisions are repealed:
( 10) Section 46. 035, Penal Code.
Ahhh.... Missed that. That's definitely a negative for me. Although, carrying in an emergency shelter during an emergency appears to be ok.

I had an issue a while back where I was on volunteer duty during an emergency and the CP was set up inside a middle school. Was nice to have the 46.035 defense to prosecution that now seems to be gone. :roll:

Thanks again for the clarification.
by RoyGBiv
Mon May 24, 2021 2:17 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Papa_Tiger wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:25 am Gun Signs with force of law under HB 1927:

30.05
Sign Description:
Includes language that is identical to or substantially similar to the following:
"Pursuant to Section 30. 05, Penal Code (criminal trespass), a person may not enter this property with a firearm"
In both English and Spanish in contrasting block letters at least 1 inch in height

How can it be posted:
At each entrance to the property, in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

Who can post:
Any private business or non-governmental entity not covered by TPC 46.03 PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED

Who does it apply to:
All persons carrying a firearm (this includes long guns as well as handguns)

Defense to prosecution provided to:
LTC holders under TPC 30.05(f) that states:
It is a defense to prosecution under this sect ion that:
(1) the basis on which entry on the property or land or in the building was forbidden is that entry with a handgun was forbidden; and
(2) the person was carrying:
(A) a license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry a handgun; and
(B) a handgun:
( i) in a concealed manner; or
(ii) in a holster.
Offense for violating:
Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200
Class A misdemeanor if you receive notice and fail to depart

30.06
Sign Description:
Language identical to the following:
"Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"
In both English and Spanish in contrasting colors at least 1 inch in height

How can it be posted:
On a property in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public - applies to the whole property, not just a premises (building or portion of a building)

Who can post:
Any private business, non-governmental entity, and governmental entity listed in TPC 46.03 PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
There are certain exceptions to the application of TPC 46.03 for license holders - namely governmental meetings subject to the open meetings act.
Government entities/buildings/locations that are not listed in TPC 46.03 can post, but the law cannot be applied to a license holder.

Who does it apply to:
Persons licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411 Government Code (handgun licensing law)

Defense to prosecution provided to:
Condo residents or guests, lessees of residential housing, or a lessee of a manufactured home going directly to or from a vehicle and housing unit
Volunteer emergency services personnel
License holders personally given oral notice who promptly depart the property

Who does it NOT apply to:
Unlicensed individuals

Offense for violating:
Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200
Class A misdemeanor if you receive notice and fail to depart

30.07
Sign Description:
Language identical to the following:
"Pursuant to Section 30.07, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with an openly carried handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a handgun that is carried openly"
In both English and Spanish in contrasting colors at least 1 inch in height

How can it be posted:
Displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public at each entrance to the property.

Who can post:
Any private business, non-governmental entity, and governmental entity listed in TPC 46.03 PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
There are certain exceptions to the application of TPC 46.03 for license holders - namely governmental meetings subject to the open meetings act.
Government entities/buildings/locations that are not listed in TPC 46.03 can post, but the law cannot be applied to a license holder.

Who does it apply to:
Persons licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411 Government Code (handgun licensing law)

Defense to prosecution provided to:
Condo residents or guests, lessees of residential housing, or a lessee of a manufactured home going directly to or from a vehicle and housing unit
Volunteer emergency services personnel
License holders personally given oral notice who promptly depart the property

Offense for violating:
Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200
Class A misdemeanor if you receive notice and fail to depart

46.03
Sign Description:
Language that is identical to or substantially similar to the following:
"Pursuant to Section 46.03, Penal Code (places weapons prohibited), a person may not carry a firearm or other weapon on this property"
In both English and Spanish in contrasting colors with block letters at least 1 inch in height

Where can it be posted:
On a property in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public - applies to the whole property, not just a premises (building or portion of a building)

Who can post:
Locations listed in TPC 46.03 including:
  • premises of a school or the grounds where a school sponsored activity is taking place (this includes colleges - no constitutional carry on university property)
  • premises of a polling place while voting is in progress
  • premises of a court or offices used by the court
  • premises of a racetrack
  • secured area of an airport
  • within 1000 ft. of a place of execution on the date of the execution
  • 51% locations
  • Premises of high school, collegiate, or professional sporting events while the event is taking place unless the weapon is used in the event
  • Premises of a correctional facility
  • Premises of a civil commitment facility
  • Hospitals and nursing homes
  • Certain state-run mental hospitals
  • Amusement parks
  • Government meetings subject to the open meetings act
Who does it apply to:
All persons carrying a firearm (this includes long guns as well as handguns)

Exceptions
Persons licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411 Government Code (handgun licensing law) may carry on public institutions of higher education and government meetings subject to the open meetings act
Collegiate sporting events, hospitals, nursing homes, and amusement parks must be posted with 30.06/7 to exclude persons licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411 Government Code (handgun licensing law)
51% locations must be properly posted to exclude anyone carrying a weapon

Defense to prosecution provided to:
Persons provided notice by the owner of the property, or from another person with apparent authority to act for the owner that carrying a firearm or other weapon on the premises or other property, as applicable, was prohibited; and promptly departed from the premises or other property.

This does not apply if the location was properly posted with the signs or the person knew that carrying a firearm or other weapon on the premises or other property was prohibited.

Persons possessing a firearm in a secured area of an airport licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411 Government Code (handgun licensing law) who are notified and immediately exit the checkpoint after completing the required screening

Offense for violating:
Third degree felony or Class A misdemeanor depending on which location the firearm was carried on.
Thanks for this Papa_Tiger. :tiphat:
I would add one item....
Under 46.035 there is a defense to prosecution for Volunteer emergency services personnel who are actively engaged in an emergency activity.

https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code ... 6-035.html
(m) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsections (b) and (c) that the actor is volunteer emergency services personnel engaged in providing emergency services.
by RoyGBiv
Thu May 13, 2021 12:56 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Jim Beaux wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:47 pmA member of Young Americans For Liberty's Hazlit Action Program just left my door. He was placing door hangers on the doors of those who werent home. I was happily surprised. His appearance was as liberal as one could imagine - hair bleached orange and black, gauges in his ears and he was from Austin! :shock:

I was happy to see that we conservatives have such diversity. We talked for a few minutes and we sent him off with a bottle of cold water. :patriot:
Interesting...
YAL: https://yaliberty.org/
Hazlitt's Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hazlitt

Thanks for posting, Jim. :tiphat:
by RoyGBiv
Wed May 05, 2021 1:09 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 99554

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Can't bear to watch for more than a minute at a time.

#theskyisNOTfalling

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