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by RoyGBiv
Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:57 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: HB 822 Passes Hurdles
Replies: 46
Views: 5265

Re: HB 822 Passes Hurdles

Well... I see two locked threads referring to the Senate version of this bill, introduced yesterday.
I guess the TXCHLForum.com powers that be want the Senate version discussion in this thread, so, I'll post the link to the NRAILA article..

http://nraila.org/legislation/federal-l ... enate.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Worth noting that the Senate version was sponsored by two Senators with a "D".
"The times, they are a' changing" :thumbs2:
Today, March 13, U.S. Senators Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) introduced S. 2188, the “National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2012.” The bill is the Senate companion to H. R. 822, which was approved by the U. S. House last November by a vote of 272-154.

S. 2188, like H.R. 822, would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry a concealed handgun in any other state that issues concealed firearm permits, or that does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes. A state's laws governing where concealed handguns may be carried would apply within its borders.
ETA: YES... this "D" bill is less than the "Constitutional Carry" bill re-introduced (after being shot down in 2009) by Thune and Vitter. Do we want to press for a possibly achievable "Reciprocity" bill or a DOA (in the Senate) Constitutional Carry bill? Of course I'd prefer Constitutional Carry... but...
by RoyGBiv
Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:53 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: HB 822 Passes Hurdles
Replies: 46
Views: 5265

Re: HB 822 Passes Hurdles

psijac wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:It'll need 290 House votes to override the Presidents likely (understatement?) veto.

1. How many of those 271 Yea's would also vote for an override?
2. How many more Dem's could be swayed to vote for an override?
3. And this vote was just to confirm the debate "Rule" to be applied... it was not a vote for/against the legislation itself.

Looks like the House will debate the bill/amendments live on C-Span starting at Noon today...
This bill may not be the first thing on the agenda however...
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/302722-2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I hope this passes... but.. I'm not holding my breath.
I am more worried that it will pass. Amendments could make it a powerful Trojan Horse for anti-gun policies
Reading the proposed amendments here ( http://www.gop.gov/bill/112/1/hr822" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) leads me to conclude that there is no worry of a Trojan in this bill. However, it is possible, if all these amendments passed, that the bill would be worthless.

Remember, House Resolution 463 (the one that passed on yesterday's vote referenced by the OP) closes this bill to endless amendments... The amendments listed on the GOP web site should be all that gets debated. Further, since the bill has so many cosponsors and 463 passed by such a wide margin, getting any of these listed amendments tacked onto the final 822 bill will be difficult (nothing is impossible :mrgreen: )

So far, so good.... But... Can we get the veto overridden?
by RoyGBiv
Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:49 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: HB 822 Passes Hurdles
Replies: 46
Views: 5265

Re: HB 822 Passes Hurdles

It'll need 290 House votes to override the Presidents likely (understatement?) veto.

1. How many of those 271 Yea's would also vote for an override?
2. How many more Dem's could be swayed to vote for an override?
3. And this vote was just to confirm the debate "Rule" to be applied... it was not a vote for/against the legislation itself.

Looks like the House will debate the bill/amendments live on C-Span starting at Noon today...
This bill may not be the first thing on the agenda however...
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/302722-2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I hope this passes... but.. I'm not holding my breath.

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