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by warhorse10_9
Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:42 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 5728

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

VMI77 wrote: What that tells me is that Kay Bailey either has limited comprehension of the English language or is a liar. It's an indisputable fact than many legal professionals, from practicing attorneys to law professors, contradict KB's claim, so the BEST she can claim is that the language is ambiguous enough that its meaning can ultimately only be determined by the Courts. It's also a fact that clarifying language --language that would have made KB's claims explicitly true-- were voted down. There is no logical reason for voting against such clarifying language if the legislation really wasn't INTENDED to apply to US citizens. What actually happened is that Congress DELIBERATELY voted to preserve ambiguity that allows indefinite detention of American citizens --a power already claimed by the Executive. It's simply not plausible that KB doesn't know this, so I have to conclude she's a liar.
That's the way I felt when I got the email, I specifically mentioned my concerns about the ambiguity when I emailed her, she seems to have ignored them. As others have said, she is a politician. Apparently quite a few people in Washington think we are all idiots.
by warhorse10_9
Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:26 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path
Replies: 28
Views: 5728

Re: Call your Senators - We're going down the UK path

Here is what I received from Senator Hutchison:
Dear Friend:
Thank you for contacting me regarding certain provisions of H.R. 1540, the fiscal year 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). I welcome your thoughts and comments.

It has been suggested in some press accounts and commentary that certain provisions in this bill would allow the President to detain American citizens within the United States indefinitely if the President brands them as a terrorist. That is simply not accurate.

On December 15, 2011, Congress passed H.R. 1540, which contains two sections (Sections 1031 and 1032) that address the detention of suspected terrorists. Over the past decade, the Bush and Obama Administrations have detained members of terrorist organizations, both at home and abroad, in order to protect our country and our people. The federal courts have affirmed the legality, general and specific, of such detentions. Congress added Sections 1031 and 1032 to the NDAA in order to codify the limits of detention authority.

Section 1031 establishes guidelines to allow U.S. Armed Forces to detain “covered persons” captured during hostilities as unprivileged enemy combatants, under the laws of war. A “covered person” is now defined in federal law as a person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Nothing in this section authorizes U.S. Armed Forces to capture and detain U.S. citizens for any other reason.

Section 1032 requires U.S. Armed Forces to hold in custody as an unprivileged enemy combatant any person who is a member or part of al Qaeda or associated forces, and who participated in planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners. This section clearly states that this requirement does not extend to citizens of the United States.

These two sections of the NDAA have been the subjects of some controversy. Americans are right to be concerned and vigilant about potential threats to our civil liberties. Please be assured that I and other Members of Congress reviewed Sections 1031 and 1032 of the NDAA very carefully and consulted with respected legal experts before giving bipartisan approval.

Should related detainee provisions come for consideration before the full Senate, you may be certain I will keep your views in mind.

I appreciate hearing from you, and hope that you will not hesitate to contact me on any issue that is important to you.

Sincerely,
Kay Bailey Hutchison
United States Senator

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