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by mikeloc
Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:41 am
Forum: CHL Checklist
Topic: "Off Limits" locations for CHL's
Replies: 152
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Re: "Off Limits" locations for CHL's

I've been a little dense trying to understand the hospital posting stating that it is unlawful to carry a handgun. Finally I realized they must post under GC411.204 section (c) Page 28 of the 2007-2008 Tx CHL Laws LS-16. So the signs stating it is unlawful to carry are not the old law or old signage. They are required to post these signs, but its okay to carry unless we've been given effective notice under 30.06 as stated on page 41 PC46.035 (i). All we need is a little more double talk from the law books.
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Mike
by mikeloc
Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:38 pm
Forum: CHL Checklist
Topic: "Off Limits" locations for CHL's
Replies: 152
Views: 80571

What I mean is when the conceal carry law went into effect January 1, 1996 you could not carry in a hospital. The law was change to require the hospital to post the 30.06 sign to keep you from carring in the hospital starting September 1, 1997. The penal code in 1997 also required the hospital to post large number 51 on the sign to the hospital. I think it was 1991 or 2001 when they were not required to post the large 5 1/2" red letter sign (51).

The signs that are being posted in the hospitals are not a reflection of any old signs or history of how the hospitals could tell us we could not carry.

I consider the signs being discussed as rather new because they only started showing up about 2003.

Some of the signs have said that it is against state law to have a gun here even if you have a conceal carry permit. I do not know why they post this type of sign.

However, I have asked DPS legal department several times and they told me you could take the ride. If a 30.06 sign was not posted and you had not been given verbal notice you should not be convicted.

With that being said I would like to know that I could not be arrested for carrying in a hospital that does not post the 30.06 sign.

I would feel better if the hospitals would either post the 30.06 signs are if they post a no guns sign at least not say it's against state law to have a handgun on your person even if you have a license.

Mike Lochabay
by mikeloc
Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:28 pm
Forum: CHL Checklist
Topic: "Off Limits" locations for CHL's
Replies: 152
Views: 80571

Liberty wrote:
The intent of the sign is to inform you of what the law used to be.
That's not true. Ever since September 1, 1997 Hospital's have been required to post 30.06 signs and at that time they had to include the 5 1/2" Red Letter 51.

Only since about 2003 has the hospitals been posting a sign stating that it's illegal to carry a handgun even if you have a conceal permit (most hospitals today are posting this type of sign and it has me confused). I've seen at least one case they posted the code and it was not in conceal carry section of the code. If I can find the code posted again I'll send it to Charles Cotton. It is Texas Code not federal. If anyone can find the where Texas hospital code saids it's illgal to carry a handgun please post the info.

Thanks,

Mike Lochabay

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