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by WildBill
Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:33 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

We may likely be waiting a long time for the results of the investigation on this. It's interesting the LVPD continues to state they have witnesses who say Erik Scott drew one of his weapons (everyone allows that virtually every eye-witness "sees" something different). It's interesting to me that some reports also state "inconsistencies" in the ear-witness accounts. It was reported that some people heard: "drop it", "get on the ground", or "get down." With three LEOs yelling orders, all of the ear-witnesses could be correct...
by WildBill
Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:54 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

And let me point out one thing we may not have considered. IF the LVMPD officers acted in bad faith and broke the law, and IF they are convicted of murder, it WILL send a very chilling message to every officer who puts on a gun and badge to go to work in the morning. The LVMPD officers will NEVER be convicted of murder...
by WildBill
Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:16 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

Rosa Parks was not killed for her right to sit any where on a bus, but Eric was killed for his right to bear arms. This is not true. Rosa Parks road the bus knowing that she would be challenged. Erik Scott was killed for "allegedly" not following the lawful orders of Las Vegas LEOs. Erik Scott did not set out to be a martyr for the Second Amendment. He was not trying to make any kind of political statement. He simply went out with his girlfriend to buy some things for their new apartment...
by WildBill
Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:34 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

This comment to a news article on the shooting took my breath away. Just shocking! :bigmouth I am still having the chills from reading this testimony. :shock: What, I could not believe my eyes. He raised both arms in surrender position and he got shot and killed, tased and then shot another time :banghead: This could be an accurate "eye witness" account, but it is not testimony. So far, it is just an anonymous post on the internet...
by WildBill
Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:30 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

I've observed that stores have a lot of video cameras now, and they are pretty high quality. I hope as much as anyone participating in this thread that the video (a) is preserved and (b) exonerates the late Mr. Scott. However, I won't be surprised if the video is as ambiguous as all the other evidence that has come out so far. - Jim I believe that this is going to be the crucial evidence to determine what acually happened inside the Costco store...
by WildBill
Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:02 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

How would video muddy the waters? Video shows only what happened in front of the camera, and only from one angle. It does not show what happened before or after, or out of view. It does not show things from the point of view of people on the ground. This problem has existed since practical photography was developed. People take a photo or now video as "proof." It is nothing of the sort. It can be biased and subjective, even if not outright fabricated. I offer you this photo, which those with gray hair will remember: This photo changed the course of history, along with this one: - Jim I remember both photographs. Google "Famous Vietnam War Photos" for some history. In more recent history, during the Rodney King case, the same videos that acquitted the police officers in one trial were used to convict them in the Federal trial...
by WildBill
Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:07 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

I think that one of the reasons that this post is consuming some people is that this is the exact sitution which we hoped would never happen to a CHL. There have been hundreds, if not thousands, of posts on this Forum where people have expressed fears and concerns about printing or accidently exposing their handgun. There have been hundreds of posts expressing fears of someone seeing an exposed gun and "freaking out and running down the aisles yelling and screaming and calling 911." There has never been a verified case of this happening - until now. Maybe the Costco employee didn't yell and scream and run down the aisles, but he or she did freak out and call 911. The end result is something that we all fear...
by WildBill
Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:57 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

The media is so quick to pick up on a story involving guns but yet this story hasn't gone nation wide. So many people I have talked to haven't even heard about it. It could be a coincidence, but Las Vegas' main source of revenue is from tourism. Remember what happened in Aruba in 2005 when Natalee Holloway went missing? After that case was widely reported in the media, many people cancelled their plans to take vacation there. So because of a news worthy event taking place in a town that is a tourist attraction it should be ignored? So what, if people decided they didn't want to take a chance on being gunned down by the local PD and cancelled their vaction plans in favor of a place they would feel saver? I see nothing wrong with that. Do you think, just maybe, after all the lost tourism trade, Aruba changed their investigative system on missing persons cases somewhat? Or offered a bit more security for tourists? Maybe Las Vegas needs a wake up call. Best way to do that is hit em where it hurts. The pocketbook. I am offering a possible explanation, not an endorsement. This is the power of the internet. Without it most of us would be in dark about this incident. I wish I had the power, but I don't control what goes out on the AP or UPI wires...
by WildBill
Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:28 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

The media is so quick to pick up on a story involving guns but yet this story hasn't gone nation wide. So many people I have talked to haven't even heard about it. It could be a coincidence, but Las Vegas' main source of revenue is from tourism. Remember what happened in Aruba in 2005 when Natalee Holloway went missing? After that case was widely reported in the media, many people cancelled their plans to take vacation there, losing millions of tourist dollars...
by WildBill
Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:01 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

Here is an article from Las Vegas. I think that it provides some more information that gives a clearer picture of what happened. Father wants Las Vegas police held accountable in son's death http://www.lvrj.com/news/father-wants-las-vegas-police-held-accountable-in-son-s-death-98587719.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false...
by WildBill
Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:13 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

A very good interview with Erik Scott's father: http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=12809131" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false...
by WildBill
Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:37 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Replies: 886
Views: 173058

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco

We may be waiting awhile to find out what actually happened in this incident. According to the article in this link the video will not be released by police until after the coroner's inquest is complete sometime in September. :banghead: http://www.8newsnow.com/global/story.asp?s=12801643" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Serious question: why does it take 2-3 months for a coroner to say the guy died by gun shots? Document the trajectory and you're done. What else is there? A coroner's inquest is different than an autopsy. Similar to a trial, they call witnesses to testify. I imagine the county attorney needs time to examine the evidence and prepare. In addition to the autopsy, I am sure that they will do alcohol and drug tests on the deceased. Sometimes that can take several weeks to get the lab reports. It also gives time for the furor about the shooting to subside...

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