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Mother Who Rescued Her Children During Uvalde School Shooting Speaks Out: ‘Not One Officer Inside The School’

link to the video on twitter. Warning Language:


This mom is a true Texan.

Another tweet says it best:
Feds knew about the killers plan, the school is left open, police stand down and attempt to stop others from acting, dozens murders, the cop in charge gets a promotion…

But my guns, distrust for govt and self reliance of the 2nd amendment is the problem?
I've heard the local police that stood down are no longer cooperating with state authorities. To me this incident must be investigated for deeper causes than simple incompetence. Were the Dems seeking this bloodbath for political reasons?
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Have they traced the money yet?

Follow the money.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:46 am Heck, I don't see how they are even going to use that school again. I don't think they can build a new school over the summer break but how in the world can anyone expect those children to ever go back in that building and feel safe?
I heard (radio?) that the school will be torn down. It's a small school so I don't think they will be short desks by moving students around.
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bbhack wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:42 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:46 am Heck, I don't see how they are even going to use that school again. I don't think they can build a new school over the summer break but how in the world can anyone expect those children to ever go back in that building and feel safe?
I heard (radio?) that the school will be torn down. It's a small school so I don't think they will be short desks by moving students around.
I sure hope so. I can't imagine expecting any of those kids or teachers to go back in that place. Maybe instead of wasting tax dollars on people who don't want to repay the student loans they agreed to, the federal government could spend a few bucks to help that district rebuild a new school.

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philip964 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:41 pm Have they traced the money yet?

Follow the money.
As I've stated before, I'm an experienced technician who works on aircraft for a living, and make some pretty decent money doing so. I still cannot afford to go buy high-end ARs without scrimping and saving...and the killer had not one, but TWO of them, both purchased either at the same time, or in short order, from what I gather. I still have not heard any definitive explanation of where the killer got the money to buy that high-end gear. I don't want to be a "conspiracy theory" guy, but there are indeed elements to the backstory on this that are unsettling, to say the least.
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K.Mooneyham wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:21 am
philip964 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:41 pm Have they traced the money yet?

Follow the money.
As I've stated before, I'm an experienced technician who works on aircraft for a living, and make some pretty decent money doing so. I still cannot afford to go buy high-end ARs without scrimping and saving...and the killer had not one, but TWO of them, both purchased either at the same time, or in short order, from what I gather. I still have not heard any definitive explanation of where the killer got the money to buy that high-end gear. I don't want to be a "conspiracy theory" guy, but there are indeed elements to the backstory on this that are unsettling, to say the least.
I am betting he got the money through his grand parents. Another possibility is drug money. His momma and her boyfriend are dopers. I doubt very seriously his momma's boyfriend would come out and say the little monster stole the money from him.

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I heard one explanation that makes sense. He gets applications for credit cards because he is turning 18. He applies for all of them and buys the rifles/ammo on credit with no intention of paying it back.
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he worked at wendys right. he probably started saving up for it as soon as he started. he lived with his grandma so no bills to pay. free food and housing. so yeah, $5000 for 2 AR's and red dot is easy to save.
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Didn't take long.

'Uvalde Parents and Teacher Seek Documents From Gun Maker After School Shooting'

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https://apple.news/A6LOFWsHBSdG5OC4MvI4BwA

Online forums are terrorist threat.

Spreading false rumors that Uvalde was a government false flag to seize guns.

Encouraging copy cat mass shootings.
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philip964 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:17 pm https://apple.news/A6LOFWsHBSdG5OC4MvI4BwA

Online forums are terrorist threat.

Spreading false rumors that Uvalde was a government false flag to seize guns.

Encouraging copy cat mass shootings.
LOL...

So it's actually not the proven fact that media relentlessly celebrating mass murderers that encourages copy cats???

...found a positive and statistically significant relationship between the amount of coverage dedicated to mass shootings and the number of shootings that occurred in the following week.

“At its mean,” the researchers conclude, “ABC news coverage is suggested to cause approximately three mass shootings in the subsequent week, equivalent to 58 percent of mass shootings in the United States.” (Their results were robust using both definitions of a “mass shooting”: either four or more individuals shot and four or more individuals killed.)

“We find a pretty clear empirical relationship between coverage and future acts,”


I'm also confused how "online forums" prevented the Uvalde police (whose HQ was just over a mile from the school) responding for well over an hour... no...scratch that ....the Border Patrol were the ones to finally respond.

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I'm sure that the LEO in charge being a Democrat/Beto supporter is miraculously completely unrelated to current massive attack on our 2nd Amendment rights... its all just a coincidence.
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howdy wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:09 pm I heard one explanation that makes sense. He gets applications for credit cards because he is turning 18. He applies for all of them and buys the rifles/ammo on credit with no intention of paying it back.
Without some credit history or a co signer, he likely wouldn't get enough of a credit line to buy even one of the high end ARs he had. Daniels Defense will have all the credit card info so should be easy to find out where the money is coming from. Of course if he purchased Green Dot or another one of the many prepaid cards with cash that he either stole or was given, the original source of the money may never be found.

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Paladin wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:03 pm Mother Who Rescued Her Children During Uvalde School Shooting Speaks Out: ‘Not One Officer Inside The School’

link to the video on twitter. Warning Language:


This mom is a true Texan.

Another tweet says it best:
Feds knew about the killers plan, the school is left open, police stand down and attempt to stop others from acting, dozens murders, the cop in charge gets a promotion…

But my guns, distrust for govt and self reliance of the 2nd amendment is the problem?
I've heard the local police that stood down are no longer cooperating with state authorities. To me this incident must be investigated for deeper causes than simple incompetence. Were the Dems seeking this bloodbath for political reasons?
Certainly the Libs would never use this for political reasons /s
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Cornyn eyes adding juvenile records to gun buyer database instead of raising the age to purchase an AR-15.

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KC5AV wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:28 am Cornyn eyes adding juvenile records to gun buyer database instead of raising the age to purchase an AR-15.

Thoughts?
Career criminals start young. Turning 18 doesn't may a psychopath with a youth full of psychopathic behavior less of a psychopath. Honestly I don't think it is fair to the innocent that violent under 18 criminals get a clean slate once they turn 18. I am for accountability. I could support that for felonies (which perhaps is already the case in some states).
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