AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

Reports of actual crimes and investigations, not hypothetical situations.

Moderators: carlson1, Keith B


Topic author
TreyHouston
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1387
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:00 pm
Location: Tomball

AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#1

Post by TreyHouston » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:12 pm

Thats some fancy shooting!!! But he got em! We need more brave LEOs like him!


“In bodycam footage so stunning it could be mistaken for a Hollywood action flick, a Las Vegas Metro police officer chasing two men in an SUV is seen speeding through Sin City's downtown while simultaneously shooting out his car's front windshield and trading shots from his side window during a deadly gun battle.”

Wild video shows Las Vegas police pursuit, shootout with suspects

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/17/wi ... pects.html

Explore the Fox News apps that are right for you at http://www.foxnews.com/apps-products/index.html.
"Jump in there sport, get it done and we'll all sing your praises." -Chas

How many times a day could you say this? :cheers2:


WTR
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 1473
Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:41 pm

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#2

Post by WTR » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:44 pm

I have a large problem with the Officer not breaking off pursuit and putting the general public at risk of a stay bullet from the perps. The situation is made all the worse when the Officer fires from a moving vehicle and sends bullets who knows where. Show very little concern for safety of innocent bystanders.

User avatar

PriestTheRunner
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 194
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:33 pm

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#3

Post by PriestTheRunner » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:23 pm

I commented on facebook on the ABC version of the clip that was edited down to remove all the shots from the suspects, the officer's requests for air support (which was not readily available) and the length of the chase. His options were between letting the murder suspects get away (which would eventually lead to a very dangerous SWAT raid) or returning fire. Considering how quickly the chase ended after he returned fire, I would say he made the right decision--But the point is that the decision is not ours to make and not ours to armchair quarterback.

He made a difficult (and brave) decision in the moment and survived. I have no issues with that.

User avatar

mojo84
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 8352
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:07 pm
Location: Boerne, TX (Kendall County)

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#4

Post by mojo84 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:16 pm

Awesome work by the cop. I bet his ears will ring for quite some time.

User avatar

John Galt
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 611
Joined: Tue May 26, 2015 9:14 pm
Location: DFW

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#5

Post by John Galt » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:13 pm

mojo84 wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:16 pm
I bet his ears will ring for quite some time.
Exactly!

User avatar

Take Down Sicko
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 659
Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:01 pm
Location: Houston Tx
Contact:

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#6

Post by Take Down Sicko » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:36 pm

I'm just glad those two murder suspects wont be murdering any others. Ever. No telling how many other victims in there life time of crime.

User avatar

Allons
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 947
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:03 pm
Location: San Antonio

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#7

Post by Allons » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:05 pm

Take Down Sicko wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:36 pm
I'm just glad those two murder suspects wont be murdering any others. Ever. No telling how many other victims in there life time of crime.
:iagree:
EDC'S: Dan Wesson CCO, CZ-P01, CZ-P10C, CZ-P07, XDS-45 MOD 2
Home Defense: Mossberg 930 SPX
NRA Member
US Army 1988-1999
Image

User avatar

flowrie
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 369
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:16 pm
Location: DFW area

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#8

Post by flowrie » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:13 pm

I have no problem with the officer firing out his open side window at a close target, putting rounds into the suspects vehicle. I do have a problem with the shots through the windshield. The deflection of the bullet by the windshield is unknown, so you have no idea where the bullets are really going.
Just my 2 cents.
NRA Life Member, NGAT Life Member, NTSA Member, Texas Right to Life donor.

User avatar

LAYGO
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 631
Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:18 pm
Location: Cross Roads, TX (Denton Co)

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#9

Post by LAYGO » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:18 pm

Just watched this & was amazed he decided to fire . . . while driving . . . and thru his windshield.

The thing that struck me was him getting out of his cruiser with an empty mag & you watch his fine motor skills deteriorate as he attempts to reload.

It's hard to argue with the results, but after he calls off his colleague for being too close, he ends up WAY closer and on an empty mag. YIKES.
S&W M&P 40 Mid (EDC) - S&W Shields (his/hers) - S&W M&P .45C - S&W 4513TSW .45 (1st Gen, retired to nightstand)
CMMG AR15 w/ACOG
Anderson AR15 pistol w/Aimpoint H1

08/04/2013 CHL class taken - plastic rec'd 08/26! Renewed 2018


OneGun
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 512
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:22 am
Location: Houston

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#10

Post by OneGun » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:26 pm

I am not sure arm-chair quarterbacking is fair. It is easy from the comfort of our homes to decide what the police officer should or could have done. What I know is those BGs were shooting at the cop during a chase. I do not think the cops can simply let the BGs go because then every BG will shoot at the cops to escape.

I do not know the area where the officer shot through the windshield. I do not know what was beyond the BGs should the cop miss.

We do know that the BGs can not do this again. A complete AAR is needed to evaluate all of the facts and circumstances of this incident before judgment can be passed.


I thankful the good guys are ok and the BGs are not.
Annoy a Liberal, GET A JOB!

User avatar

LDB415
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1014
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:01 am
Location: Houston south suburb

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#11

Post by LDB415 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:17 am

It appears they need a PTT switch on the steering wheel so they can maintain better control and still communicate.
NRA Life Member, TSRA Life Member, GSSF Member
Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like.
Common sense is only right wing if you are too far to the left.
A pistol without a round chambered is an expensive paper weight.

User avatar

TexasJohnBoy
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1916
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:21 pm
Location: North Texas

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#12

Post by TexasJohnBoy » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:22 am

LDB415 wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:17 am
It appears they need a PTT switch on the steering wheel so they can maintain better control and still communicate.
After seeing this I was shocked that hasn't been a thing yet. My truck has no problem with a mic in the roof for me to talk. They should modify the phone systems in vehicles now to be PTT on the radio; it was scary how much he had to juggle. Almost lost it at the beginning of the video...

ETA: I need to point out that this is post 1911 for me. I think it may be a sign...
TSRA Member since 5/30/15; NRA Member since 10/31/14

User avatar

Paladin
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 2201
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:02 pm
Location: DFW

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#13

Post by Paladin » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:24 am

Nunez and Miranda both have a lengthy criminal past. Nunez has been convicted three times and also has been arrested on robbery with a deadly weapon, robbery and grand larceny auto charges.

Miranda had previously been convicted of conspiracy to commit robbery and arrested for robbery, kidnapping, grand larceny auto, prohibited person in possession of a firearm and narcotics.

Nunez, who was also wounded, was arrested and is facing several felony charges, including murder...The suspects traded more than 60 shots with police during the harrowing pursuit.
That body cam footage is a stark reminder of the horrible monsters that roam our streets and the bravery required to bring them to justice.

Horrible situation, but the cop did what he had to do in this situation. The bad guys created the situation, the cop finished it and got them off the street before they could kill anyone else.
NRA Endowment, TSRA Life, GOA Life Member
Texas State Guard


flechero
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1938
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:04 pm
Location: Central Texas

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#14

Post by flechero » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:01 am

WTR wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:44 pm
I have a large problem with the Officer not breaking off pursuit and putting the general public at risk of a stay bullet from the perps. The situation is made all the worse when the Officer fires from a moving vehicle and sends bullets who knows where. Show very little concern for safety of innocent bystanders.
This is a case of you could argue several points either direction but in the case of 2 murder suspects shooting at police, this is the time that you have to stop them... breaking off here assures the public is in further danger.

Besides, that would send a huge message to all violent criminals (with little to lose) that shooting up the public is a free pas out of there.

If nothing else, it makes the case for a partner, a sunroof and a patrol rifle! :tiphat:


Rob72
Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 110
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:08 am
Location: Gulf Coast

Re: AMAZING! Las Vegas shootout while driving

#15

Post by Rob72 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:08 am

flowrie wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:13 pm
The deflection of the bullet by the windshield is unknown, so you have no idea where the bullets are really going.
Nope, and yep, you do. ;-)

Training issues noted:
1) He is uncertain whether or not to shoot through the windshield or side window, and is changing hands. Changing angles of fire is understandable, but he should know with which hand he is more accurate, forward-facing or cross-body, and not transition.

2) Hit the mag release with non-dominant thumb. Run it like you own it- there should only be a fractional change of firing grip (if that) to peg the mag release and drop the empty, with the controlling hand. Which leads to ...

3) Attempted to reload with mag backwards. The reload-hand, grabbing the mag, should "know" the orientation of the mag, from whence it comes. The fingers index the mag the same way, to the same place, in the same grip and motion, Every. Single.Time.

4) After reload, he assumes the old revolver grip, support thumb over firing hand. Not good. Worst case, you short-stroke the slide and have to do a failure-remediation. Mid-worst-case, you get a big slide gouge, running slick, slimy, blood all over your firing platform (hands and pistol). Best-case, you don't have maximal control of your weapon, resulting in increased muzzle-rise, diminished accuracy and slower shot-to-shot.

Not bad, considering the high pucker-factor, but could use some detailing.

Post Reply

Return to “The Crime Blotter”