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Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:42 pm
by Flightmare

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:04 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
no shots fired. just the sound of jewelry cases being smashed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/la-plaza-m ... 018-07-28/

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:24 pm
by spectre
JustSomeOldGuy wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:04 pm
no shots fired. just the sound of jewelry cases being smashed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/la-plaza-m ... 018-07-28/
More like "active looter"

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:19 pm
by bblhd672
The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The sky is....uh never mind.

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:11 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
local word is target was the Deutsch & Deutsch Jewelry store just off the food court, which has a direct entrance into the northeast parking lot.
other local scuttlebutt is between 3 and 7 perps, none of whom were U.S. citizens.
Police response time in McAllen for major crimes is generally 3 minutes or less. Add to that, the mall is on the north side of 1) the municipal international airport and 2) a Border Patrol substation. So that part of town is ALREADY crawling with local, state and federal law enforcement. At least two of the hotels directly adjacent the mall are predominately housing for DPS units on temporary border duty.
Waiting to see if City of McAllen or DPS has a press conference later today........

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:19 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
Security camera video released by Hidalgo County SO (?)

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 1694345071

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:01 pm
by LAYGO
My significant other lives down there. I tell her to carry on her person all the time. :( ALL THE TIME, except she can't at work because of some Fed regulations or some such . . .

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:20 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:16 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
and for comic relief, we have an unidentified agency's team arriving late to the party and making entry into the mall, losing a mag from an AR in the process (+- 12 seconds in......)
Puro Valle, even when we look good we look like idiots....... :oops: :banghead:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 4832449817

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:25 pm
by philip964
TV news showed a platoon of camo army guys arriving for a war at the mall.

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:01 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
Watching security cam video again, I make it 1 minute 19 seconds from robbers making store entry to a McAllen PD uniform entering followed by two UC's. I'll bet the perps originally thought they'd have more time.

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:17 pm
by SigM4
^Do we know for a fact they’re UC or off-duty that follow the uniformed LEO? I almost wonder if orange shirt isn’t an LTC given the unsure nature he portrays in trying the clear around the corner of that wall. Not that I’d do much better, but understanding the concept of “slicing the pie” sure helps. Even then I guess a good majority of cops probably aren’t as well trained in clearing rooms as I would hope they’d be.

Again, I don’t know and that’s why I ask. I’ve been trying to find more info about the individuals in that video but haven’t seen anything about who they are/work for. I for one would love to hear the full details once they emerge.

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:06 pm
by srothstein
The word on my police forums is that the first responders were a mix of on duty and off duty officers and LTC who volunteered to help. I am guessing the response time was so short because the robbers let a couple people slide out the door during the robbery (can be seen on the video).

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:52 pm
by ELB
Interesting video of the actual robbery. The first robber in the door goes straight to the guy most likely to be armed. Food for thought.

Re: Active shooter has been reported at the La Plaza Mall in McAllen

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:57 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
I have no idea who the plainclothes were. The other side of the right hand wall in the video is the food court. That hallway tbones the seating area about thirty feet to the right of the jewelry store doorway. So probably a third of the diners present saw the robbers mask up, draw guns, and enter. They were probably the ones who reported the jewelry display case smashings as gunshots......