Reported: Active shooter in Odessa, TX

[philip964]

There is a private gun seller in a lot of trouble right now.

Maybe not.He would have had to KNOWINGLY sell to a felon.

Or to a person who was unqualified.

https://news.yahoo.com/latest-police-ex ... 21322.html

Neighbors were afraid of him, glad he’s dead.

[03Lightningrocks]

There is a private gun seller in a lot of trouble right now.

Maybe not.He would have had to KNOWINGLY sell to a felon.

Or to a person who was unqualified.

https://news.yahoo.com/latest-police-ex ... 21322.html

Neighbors were afraid of him, glad he’s dead.

But again. KNOWINGLY.

And me too.

[philip964]

There is a private gun seller in a lot of trouble right now.

Maybe not.He would have had to KNOWINGLY sell to a felon.

Or to a person who was unqualified.

https://news.yahoo.com/latest-police-ex ... 21322.html

Neighbors were afraid of him, glad he’s dead.

But again. KNOWINGLY.

And me too.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/texa ... ng-suspect

His house is being searched to see how knowingly he is.

[03Lightningrocks]

There is a private gun seller in a lot of trouble right now.

Maybe not.He would have had to KNOWINGLY sell to a felon.

Or to a person who was unqualified.

https://news.yahoo.com/latest-police-ex ... 21322.html

Neighbors were afraid of him, glad he’s dead.

But again. KNOWINGLY.

And me too.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/texa ... ng-suspect

His house is being searched to see how knowingly he is.

I am not sure if you think you are making some kind of point. You are not. Knowingly still applies, regardless of illegal searches by the government. Unless they have some kind of evidence the seller knew the guy was ineligible to own a firearm, nothing will come of it.

[Aggie_engr]

There is a private gun seller in a lot of trouble right now.

Maybe not.He would have had to KNOWINGLY sell to a felon.

yes, and this is exactly why the private sale loophole needs to be closed. it's common sense, we cant have mentally deranged or autistic or retardeds out there buying assault rifles and shooting up the place!

An AR15 IS NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE! Don't use the terminology used by the Looney left! The AR15 is a magazine fed Semi Auto, an Assault Rifle has a selector switch that allows it to go from Semi Auto to full auto or three round burst, there is no private sale loop hole, once again terminology used by the leftest, until the make NCIS available to the public then government has no role in a private sale! My AR15 was bought from a buddy I worked with in the fire dept, my P12 was bought from a buddy I worked with at Careflite, my son carries a P14 I gave him! His AR15 was built from a lower I gave him! None of that is any of the Government business! Or country is screaming towards the cliff of socialism right now! Do some reading, Socialism has slaughtered more people than anything else! NONE OF MY GUNS ARE ANY OF THE GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS!

Don’t waste your breath on trolls, crazy2medic.

hondo44 we know what you are....

[carlson1]

I heard tonight on Fox 4 Dallas that the house they are searching is a man who bought parts, assembled, the rifle, and sold which is illegal. I have seen many adds of people buying different parts and assembling a Heinz 57 AR 15 and decided to sale it. Is that illegal? Sure would like someone to post the law.

[Aggie_engr]

I am against "universal background checks". Even if they worked perfectly, which they don't, they won't prevent these acts of violence. Perpetrators will simply switch from one tool to another.
If states want to do something to keep prohibited people from owning firearms, then add a box to the state issued ID stating they are prohibited. It can be easily verified by a private seller.

We must have a troll posting under multiple different user names. I’m noticing some consistencies between posts, namely by user “ralewis” over on page 6 of the Walmart has fallen thread. Here’s his post:

yeah so how about a background check card. Or maybe check a box on your drivers license renewal to request a background check. As long as you have an active valid background check you can possess or receive a firearm. Tie the background check to the individual not the firearm.

[Aggie_engr]

Carlson1 I can’t quote the specific law but I was under the impression that only 80% lowers were not allowed to be sold and can only be used by the original buyer/person who completed the machining. If someone wants to buy an off the shelf, serialized stripped lower receiver and assemble it into a working firearm, they can legally sell that rifle as long as they are within all other applicable federal & state laws of course.

[carlson1]

Carlson1 I can’t quote the specific law but I was under the impression that only 80% lowers were not allowed to be sold and can only be used by the original buyer/person who completed the machining. If someone wants to buy an off the shelf, serialized stripped lower receiver and assemble it into a working firearm, they can legally sell that rifle as long as they are within all other applicable federal & state laws of course.

That would make since. As with most things the media never gets the story or facts straight. Thanks for the clarification.

[G.A. Heath]

Carlson1 I can’t quote the specific law but I was under the impression that only 80% lowers were not allowed to be sold and can only be used by the original buyer/person who completed the machining. If someone wants to buy an off the shelf, serialized stripped lower receiver and assemble it into a working firearm, they can legally sell that rifle as long as they are within all other applicable federal & state laws of course.

I suspect that we will learn that the seller was building and selling these rifles regularly without an FFL. I also suspect that we will learn that those sales were to parties he had good reason to think were prohibited persons. In other words, the seller was in the buissiness w/o a license.

[03Lightningrocks]

Carlson1 I can’t quote the specific law but I was under the impression that only 80% lowers were not allowed to be sold and can only be used by the original buyer/person who completed the machining. If someone wants to buy an off the shelf, serialized stripped lower receiver and assemble it into a working firearm, they can legally sell that rifle as long as they are within all other applicable federal & state laws of course.

I suspect that we will learn that the seller was building and selling these rifles regularly without an FFL. I also suspect that we will learn that those sales were to parties he had good reason to think were prohibited persons. In other words, the seller was in the buissiness w/o a license.

If he was, he is about to be in some serious trouble.

[DEB]

I am against "universal background checks". Even if they worked perfectly, which they don't, they won't prevent these acts of violence. Perpetrators will simply switch from one tool to another.
If states want to do something to keep prohibited people from owning firearms, then add a box to the state issued ID stating they are prohibited. It can be easily verified by a private seller.

We must have a troll posting under multiple different user names. I’m noticing some consistencies between posts, namely by user “ralewis” over on page 6 of the Walmart has fallen thread. Here’s his post:

yeah so how about a background check card. Or maybe check a box on your drivers license renewal to request a background check. As long as you have an active valid background check you can possess or receive a firearm. Tie the background check to the individual not the firearm.

I don't know how you figure this individual is a Troll? I personally like the idea. Put identifiable marks on State I.D./Driver's License identifying one as a Felon, or other prohibited person, good idea. We already have the Gold Star of approval on it, for real I.D. purposes. The Feds sure aren't going to give regular Joe's access to NCIC. So, look at the Driver's License, has a just a Gold Star, good to go. Has a Red Star, you are either a Communist or prohibited person. (Same thing I know).

[Boxerrider]

I am against "universal background checks". Even if they worked perfectly, which they don't, they won't prevent these acts of violence. Perpetrators will simply switch from one tool to another.
If states want to do something to keep prohibited people from owning firearms, then add a box to the state issued ID stating they are prohibited. It can be easily verified by a private seller.

We must have a troll posting under multiple different user names. I’m noticing some consistencies between posts, namely by user “ralewis” over on page 6 of the Walmart has fallen thread. Here’s his post:

yeah so how about a background check card. Or maybe check a box on your drivers license renewal to request a background check. As long as you have an active valid background check you can possess or receive a firearm. Tie the background check to the individual not the firearm.

I am not suggesting a background check card, or extending background checks to private sales. What I posted is part of my usual remark to people who feel that doing so would make them safer. A more complete version would be;
Why implement a complicated and expensive system requiring free and responsible citizens to spend their personal time and money proving they are "eligible" to buy a firearm? A simpler and less expensive option would be to mark the state ID of a person who commits an act that makes them ineligible.
Some other things I frequently say to these, possibly well-meaning, but misguided sheeple;
So, you want to protect the privacy of convicted felons, but keep detailed records on everyone who is not?
How is obtaining a state ID to vote an unnecessary and unconstitutional hardship, but scheduling time and paying money for a third-party to complete a background check and paperwork for the government anytime one person sells a firearm to another acceptable?

[SickSilverado]

There is a private gun seller in a lot of trouble right now.

Maybe not.He would have had to KNOWINGLY sell to a felon.

yes, and this is exactly why the private sale loophole needs to be closed. it's common sense, we cant have mentally deranged or autistic or retardeds out there buying assault rifles and shooting up the place!

What's wrong with autistic people owning "assault rifles"? I'm assuming you mean AR15's.

[Syntyr]

And here we go... turns out the Odessa shooter did not buy his weapon in a private sale! He bought the weapon from a man that was illegally manufacturing and selling ARs.

So it was a totally criminal act. It would not have been stopped by universal background checks. It is the prima facia case that proved laws will not stop criminals!

No compromise!
No universal background checks aka registration!
No red flag laws aka pre crime!

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