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Post by philip964 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:47 am

https://news.yahoo.com/felony-charge-gi ... 16726.html

Threatening mass shooting was the charge.

Sounds like she was not an ideal student as well.

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Post by n5wmk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:37 am

philip964 wrote:
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Its where we are today.
Sadly, you're very correct.
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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:04 pm

A couple things struck me. The first was her having a conversation about killing five students. The one that lead up to her pointing the shooting sign at five people. The title of this thread is extremely misleading as is the title of the news story. Obviously they are trying to make the poor little black girl the victim. She was not charged with a felony threat for just randomly doing a shooting sign. She did it while saying those were who she would kill. Huge difference between the random kid playing shoot em up and a girl with a violent history saying she is gonna shoot those people. Next thing to hit me was how violent she was during her arrest. Obviously a child who has been allowed to bully her way around long enough that she has zero respect for authority or civilized behavior. Hopefully they can get her the help she needs because that little monster is just looking to make her mark.
The girl, who attended Westridge Middle School in Overland Park, Kansas, made the gesture at four of her peers and then toward herself on Sept. 18, after being asked which five people she would kill in her class


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Post by OneGun » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:39 pm

The school to prison pipeline us backward integrating into middle schools...
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Post by Txtension » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:18 am

03Lightningrocks wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:04 pm
A couple things struck me. The first was her having a conversation about killing five students. The one that lead up to her pointing the shooting sign at five people. The title of this thread is extremely misleading as is the title of the news story. Obviously they are trying to make the poor little black girl the victim. She was not charged with a felony threat for just randomly doing a shooting sign. She did it while saying those were who she would kill. Huge difference between the random kid playing shoot em up and a girl with a violent history saying she is gonna shoot those people. Next thing to hit me was how violent she was during her arrest. Obviously a child who has been allowed to bully her way around long enough that she has zero respect for authority or civilized behavior. Hopefully they can get her the help she needs because that little monster is just looking to make her mark.
The girl, who attended Westridge Middle School in Overland Park, Kansas, made the gesture at four of her peers and then toward herself on Sept. 18, after being asked which five people she would kill in her class

To me it sounds like the; "kill", "make love to", "marry" game, played back in high school. Where one person would present 3 "bad" choices to the other. Like Hitler, Mao-Tse Dong, and Stalin. Alternatively one could be presented with "good" choices. Laughs usually ensue

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:41 am

Txtension wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:18 am
03Lightningrocks wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:04 pm
A couple things struck me. The first was her having a conversation about killing five students. The one that lead up to her pointing the shooting sign at five people. The title of this thread is extremely misleading as is the title of the news story. Obviously they are trying to make the poor little black girl the victim. She was not charged with a felony threat for just randomly doing a shooting sign. She did it while saying those were who she would kill. Huge difference between the random kid playing shoot em up and a girl with a violent history saying she is gonna shoot those people. Next thing to hit me was how violent she was during her arrest. Obviously a child who has been allowed to bully her way around long enough that she has zero respect for authority or civilized behavior. Hopefully they can get her the help she needs because that little monster is just looking to make her mark.
The girl, who attended Westridge Middle School in Overland Park, Kansas, made the gesture at four of her peers and then toward herself on Sept. 18, after being asked which five people she would kill in her class

To me it sounds like the; "kill", "make love to", "marry" game, played back in high school. Where one person would present 3 "bad" choices to the other. Like Hitler, Mao-Tse Dong, and Stalin. Alternatively one could be presented with "good" choices. Laughs usually ensue
I never heard of that game but this girl has a history of "bullying" the other students. I doubt it was a game. More likely a continuation of her past behavior.
Donchez told USA TODAY that there were previous encounters involving the student that resulted in classmates being "fearful" of her. That investigation resulted in the arrest of the student, where she was transported to juvenile detention.


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Post by Dave2 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:44 am

03Lightningrocks wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:41 am
Txtension wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:18 am
To me it sounds like the; "kill", "make love to", "marry" game, played back in high school.
I never heard of that game
I’ve heard of the “who would you marry” game, but not the others and not in high school. Pretty much once puberty started and hormones kicked in, it stopped being a game. At least where I grew up.
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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:17 pm

I didn't realize that threatening to kill someone was a felony. Seems a bit extreme to me, but then again, I err on the side of free speech versus hurt feelings.

Was Madonna arrested when she threatened to burn down the White House after Trump was elected? It sounds like she definitely committed a felony there.
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Post by Dave2 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:59 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:17 pm
I didn't realize that threatening to kill someone was a felony. Seems a bit extreme to me, but then again, I err on the side of free speech versus hurt feelings.

Was Madonna arrested when she threatened to burn down the White House after Trump was elected? It sounds like she definitely committed a felony there.
I believe the feds talked to both her and one of the other people there. Not the same as being arrested, but maybe the laws are different.
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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:41 pm

Dave2 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:59 pm
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:17 pm
I didn't realize that threatening to kill someone was a felony. Seems a bit extreme to me, but then again, I err on the side of free speech versus hurt feelings.

Was Madonna arrested when she threatened to burn down the White House after Trump was elected? It sounds like she definitely committed a felony there.
I believe the feds talked to both her and one of the other people there. Not the same as being arrested, but maybe the laws are different.
A court can impose several possible penalties on someone who was convicted of making criminal threats. Depending on the state, a criminal threat can be charged as either a misdemeanor or felony offense. ... Anyone convicted of making a criminal threat faces a substantial time in jail or prison.
I bet the kid who shot the students at Florida was just exercising his free speech too when he made several threats. :tiphat:

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Post by flintknapper » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:15 pm

Needs to have her out of control butt dragged in for a mental evaluation.

Any 'normal' student these days...knows better than that.

And then the Mother thinks that a "Mental Health person, Herself, Crisis, or a Female Officer should have been called in to 'deescalate' the situation."

Sorry, honey....your out of control daughter was 'resisting' an arrest. The officers did NOT use excessive force...but neither should anyone think that if you resist....you will be handled with kid gloves. Though I doubt the suspect or her mother learned anything from this.
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Post by JustSomeOldGuy » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:18 pm

flintknapper wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:15 pm
Needs to have her out of control butt dragged in for a mental evaluation.

Any 'normal' student these days...knows better than that.
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