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Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:19 pm
by Iunnrais
well, just looked up the bill online and it's showing that the Senate has adopted the conference committee version as well :txflag:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... Bill=SB321" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

*edit: opps, hirundo82 types faster than I do :)

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:35 pm
by Paragrouper
Iunnrais wrote:well, just looked up the bill online and it's showing that the Senate has adopted the conference committee version as well :txflag:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... Bill=SB321" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

*edit: opps, hirundo82 types faster than I do :)


Well now...that is mighty good news.

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:11 pm
by RHenriksen
:thewave

:anamatedbanana :woohoo :thumbs2: :hurry: :cheers2:

:party:

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:21 pm
by boomstick
Anyone happen to know what the final vote was?

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:26 pm
by flintknapper
The addition of Shotguns and Rifles (CHL's/Petro-Chemical) was good! :tiphat:

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:41 pm
by RHenriksen
flintknapper wrote:The addition of Shotguns and Rifles (CHL's/Petro-Chemical) was good! :tiphat:
Yes, a pleasant surprise to get a bonus like that at the end.

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:29 pm
by terryg
Very very nice indeed! :thewave :thewave :thewave

Time to by a safe for the car ...

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:09 am
by oilheadboxer
I work for a large chemical company. Our parking area is outside the processing areas, which are protected by fencing and badged entry.

The lot does have a guard house at the entry, however anyone can drive into our parking lot. The guard house is really just there to check vehicles driving into the secured area, which the guard house opens. Our parking lot does have cameras that scan around and the cameras are monitored by the chemical company

Reading the bill, it isn't clear to me if I will be able to legally carry to work. I am a licensed CHL holder.

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:21 am
by Keith B
oilheadboxer wrote:I work for a large chemical company. Our parking area is outside the processing areas, which are protected by fencing and badged entry.

The lot does have a guard house at the entry, however anyone can drive into our parking lot. The guard house is really just there to check vehicles driving into the secured area, which the guard house opens. Our parking lot does have cameras that scan around and the cameras are monitored by the chemical company

Reading the bill, it isn't clear to me if I will be able to legally carry to work. I am a licensed CHL holder.
As a CHL holder, if the Governor signs the bill, then as of September 1, 2011 you will be able to park in the uncontrolled section of the parking lot (outside of the secure area.)

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:17 am
by ac-mech
I don't understand the section about secure parking that is monitored by security perssonel? anybody can explain?
Is that provision only for the oil lease or petrochemical plants only?......
:tiphat:

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:46 am
by Right2Carry
How does this bill affect those who work for DOD contractors such as lockheed , Bell, and others?

The reason I am asking is a buddy of mine stated he got a message from TSRA stating DOD contractors would be off limits.

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:54 am
by Paragrouper
ac-mech wrote:I don't understand the section about secure parking that is monitored by security perssonel? anybody can explain?
Is that provision only for the oil lease or petrochemical plants only?......
:tiphat:
1. That exception covers:
Property owned or leased by a chemical manufacturer or oil and gas refinery with an air authorization under Chapter 382, Health and Safety Code, and on which the primary business conducted is the manufacture, use, storage, or transportation of hazardous, combustible, or explosive materials.

2. Employers must provide a parking area outside the restricted area for CHL's.

What I think this means is that if you are a CHL that works at a business covered by this exception, you're going to have a longer walk to your car and if you don't have a CHL--the employer can prohibit you from having a firearm in your car.

Mind you there are other exceptions: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... navpanes=0

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:10 pm
by ac-mech
Paragrouper wrote:
ac-mech wrote:I don't understand the section about secure parking that is monitored by security perssonel? anybody can explain?
Is that provision only for the oil lease or petrochemical plants only?......
:tiphat:
1. That exception covers:
Property owned or leased by a chemical manufacturer or oil and gas refinery with an air authorization under Chapter 382, Health and Safety Code, and on which the primary business conducted is the manufacture, use, storage, or transportation of hazardous, combustible, or explosive materials.

2. Employers must provide a parking area outside the restricted area for CHL's.

What I think this means is that if you are a CHL that works at a business covered by this exception, you're going to have a longer walk to your car and if you don't have a CHL--the employer can prohibit you from having a firearm in your car.

Mind you there are other exceptions: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... navpanes=0
Thank....

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:35 pm
by Keith B
Right2Carry wrote:How does this bill affect those who work for DOD contractors such as lockheed , Bell, and others?

The reason I am asking is a buddy of mine stated he got a message from TSRA stating DOD contractors would be off limits.
If it is Federal property, then it is still off-limits.

Re: SB321: Employer parking lots

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:26 pm
by MasterOfNone
Keith B wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:How does this bill affect those who work for DOD contractors such as lockheed , Bell, and others?

The reason I am asking is a buddy of mine stated he got a message from TSRA stating DOD contractors would be off limits.
If it is Federal property, then it is still off-limits.
I know Triumph/Vought on Jefferson is federal because they can't get anyone to buy property. :cryin