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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:45 pm
Can you provide a link to that information?croc870 wrote:The amendment would allow elected officials to essentially carry anywhere in Texas.
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Can you provide a link to that information?croc870 wrote:The amendment would allow elected officials to essentially carry anywhere in Texas.
Not law yet- admendments are different between house and senate. Now we need the conference committee to agree on version, which is then approved by both chambers. I don't think the conference version has to go through committe or face the 21 vote senate rule.baldeagle wrote:Senator Carona "amended" the bill by attaching a different bill to it. It passed, so now it becomes law, including the amendment, which grants elected officials special privileges they're not willing to give us. Since he's my Senator, he will definitely be hearing from me as soon as I have all the facts.
croc870 wrote:The first written item I could find was Birdwell's Facebook account:
https://www.facebook.com/BrianBirdwellF ... 7862384619
Amendments ARE voted on separately.mojo84 wrote:I wish amendments were not allowed without a separate vote for the amendment on a standalone basis.
So, the amendment was added to the bill via a vote of the house or senate? If so, who voted to add the amendment to the bill in order to give certain people the right to carry where others are not allowed?baldeagle wrote:Amendments ARE voted on separately.mojo84 wrote:I wish amendments were not allowed without a separate vote for the amendment on a standalone basis.
Your comment hear makes it sound like the amendment was added by one Senator and not that the house or senate voted to add the amendment to the bill. Help me understand.Senator Carona "amended" the bill by attaching a different bill to it. It passed, so now it becomes law, including the amendment, which grants elected officials special privileges they're not willing to give us. Since he's my Senator, he will definitely be hearing from me as soon as I have all the facts.
mojo84 wrote:So, the amendment was added to the bill via a vote of the house or senate? If so, who voted to add the amendment to the bill in order to give certain people the right to carry where others are not allowed?baldeagle wrote:Amendments ARE voted on separately.mojo84 wrote:I wish amendments were not allowed without a separate vote for the amendment on a standalone basis.
baldeagleYour comment hear makes it sound like the amendment was added by one Senator and not that the house or senate voted to add the amendment to the bill. Help me understand.Senator Carona "amended" the bill by attaching a different bill to it. It passed, so now it becomes law, including the amendment, which grants elected officials special privileges they're not willing to give us. Since he's my Senator, he will definitely be hearing from me as soon as I have all the facts.
It's the sort of bill that leaves a very, very bad taste in my mouth; images of the Soviet politburo living in a separate world comes to mind.Charles L. Cotton wrote:This special treatment of Senators and Representatives will be a very strong issue arguing for another HB3218-like bill in 2015. Don't get me wrong, I don't like it one bit, but we live in a political world and when one must accept distasteful amendments, you use them to your benefit next session.
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Any Senator can offer an amendment to any bill. When the Senator does so, the President asks the Senator to explain the amendment. The author then may accept the amendment or reject it. In either case, the Senate then votes on the amendment. Generally, amendments that are acceptable to the author of the bill will pass, and amendments that are not acceptable to the author of the bill will fail. (There are exceptions, but they are infrequent except for controversial bills.) Once all amendments have been introduced, described, debated and voted on, the bill will then be voted on as amended (if it was successfully amended.)mojo84 wrote:So, the amendment was added to the bill via a vote of the house or senate? If so, who voted to add the amendment to the bill in order to give certain people the right to carry where others are not allowed?baldeagle wrote:Amendments ARE voted on separately.mojo84 wrote:I wish amendments were not allowed without a separate vote for the amendment on a standalone basis.
baldeagleYour comment hear makes it sound like the amendment was added by one Senator and not that the house or senate voted to add the amendment to the bill. Help me understand.Senator Carona "amended" the bill by attaching a different bill to it. It passed, so now it becomes law, including the amendment, which grants elected officials special privileges they're not willing to give us. Since he's my Senator, he will definitely be hearing from me as soon as I have all the facts.
The House couldn't have put this amendment on that bill without drawing a point-of-order that would have been sustained. The Senate rarely if every calls a point-of-order.mojo84 wrote:Thank you. It's still frustrating that what I consider a bad or unnecessary amendment can be added to an otherwise worthy bill. I would like to see it stand on its own just as the original bill does and go through the committee process. This may be impractical but I think it should have to go through the process in order to avoid the extraneous pork and mud that gets added using amendments.