I was speaking specifically of the suggestions about keeping firearms secured in the dorms. I think that we're universally agreed on the idea of allowing chl on campus. Some of the more recent suggestions read as if the poster is looking for a solution that absolves bad actors of their actions. Keeping firearms locked at the front desk is one example. Requiring some higher level of security standard is another. And there are some who've suggested outright that firearms should not be allowed to be kept in dorms at all.mojo84 wrote:TexasCajun wrote:Through all of this discussion about securing handguns in the dorms for 21yr old chl holders, it occurs to me that we've inadvertently taken the position that the anti-gunners have. We are placing the responsibility of potential bad acts of non-carriers on the shoulders of the carrier. Granted, it's been more than a few years since I've lived in a college dorm. But I do recall there being a sort of mutual trust amongst roommates and suitemates. It was understood that each other's stuff was off limits unless we ask first. And we all made sure that our visitors didn't go snooping through ours or our roommates stuff. And this was the case even when when we had floor parties - which were quite common at LSU in the early 90s.
So my solution to this "problem" would be to require the chl that lives in the dorms provide some sort of secure storage for their own firearm(s). Should they find themselves rooming with untrustworthy mates, they be granted an express roommate change process to alleviate the possibility of a bad situation getting worse. And it doesn't put the chl in the position of having to be responsible for the behavior of other people.
I don't think "we've" done what you suggest. There are very few here that seem to think not allowing chl on campus or chl's to not store their guns in their dorm rooms in lock boxes is the right way to go.
Another thing we need to keep in mind is that the number of actual 21yr olds that live in dorms that have a chl is probably pretty small. So trying to develop hard and fast rules for such a statistically small percentage of a population is pause for thought and perhaps an interesting discussion. But not the barrier to the bill's passage that opponents would like it to be.