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Re: HB308

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Post by cowhow » Tue May 05, 2015 2:11 pm

Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?


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Re: HB308

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Post by CJD » Tue May 05, 2015 2:12 pm

cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?
No that's 910


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Post by cowhow » Tue May 05, 2015 2:31 pm

Yeah, that's right. To many numbers for this cob web brain of mine! :confused5

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Re: HB308

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Post by RoyGBiv » Tue May 05, 2015 2:34 pm

CJD wrote:
cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?
No that's 910
Actually, HB308 original version makes 46.035 violation a class C as well.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... 00308I.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
See section 4
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Re: HB308

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Post by CJD » Tue May 05, 2015 3:37 pm

RoyGBiv wrote:
CJD wrote:
cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?
No that's 910
Actually, HB308 original version makes 46.035 violation a class C as well.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... 00308I.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
See section 4
Yes but he asked about 30.06!

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Re: HB308

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Post by RoyGBiv » Tue May 05, 2015 4:13 pm

CJD wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:
CJD wrote:
cowhow wrote:Didn't the original bill reduce 30.06 to a Class C?
No that's 910
Actually, HB308 original version makes 46.035 violation a class C as well.

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... 00308I.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
See section 4
Yes but he asked about 30.06!
I see... yes.. private property 30.06 violation would remain class A under HB 308 as originally proposed.
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Re: HB308

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Post by cowhow » Tue May 05, 2015 6:51 pm

I'm anxious to hear Charles' assessment as you know there's bound to be committee substitutions and compromises. But its good to see movement because I was afraid it was going to die in committee. Give a little...get a little.

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Re: HB308

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Post by C-dub » Tue May 05, 2015 7:01 pm

TexasJohnBoy wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Correct. The committee substitute will be significantly different, but again, I can't comment until I'm sure the substitute is what I was given. If so, then we will not be exempt from §46.03.

Chas.
As in, licensed carry within governmental buildings (in this case institutions of higher education) would still be prohibited?

I'm still watching for updates to the status of HB308 and new text...
I might be reading your question wrong, but you do know that governmental buildings are not off limits unless certain circumstances are met, right? And although schools are governmental buildings, they are mentioned specifically as being off limits. You probably know this, but I just wanted to make sure. Other states prohibit concealed carriers from carrying in government buildings.
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Re: HB308

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Post by TexasJohnBoy » Tue May 05, 2015 7:18 pm

Yes, I know that certain government buildings are allowed and others are prohibited for carry. I'm lookin for where 308 would/wouldn't allow carry on campuses. It was a busy day at work and I didn't get to read all of the text of the bill, so I am more than likely simply confused at this point. Sounds like SB11 was referred to committee today so it may end up being a moot point. I'm going to try and sit down and read through the introduced text start to end this evening.
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Re: HB308

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Post by C-dub » Tue May 05, 2015 7:43 pm

TexasJohnBoy wrote:Yes, I know that certain government buildings are allowed and others are prohibited for carry. I'm lookin for where 308 would/wouldn't allow carry on campuses. It was a busy day at work and I didn't get to read all of the text of the bill, so I am more than likely simply confused at this point. Sounds like SB11 was referred to committee today so it may end up being a moot point. I'm going to try and sit down and read through the introduced text start to end this evening.
Cool.

From earlier posts, the current text with the committee substitute may not be available yet.
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Re: HB308

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Post by RoyGBiv » Tue May 05, 2015 9:17 pm

C-dub wrote:
TexasJohnBoy wrote:Yes, I know that certain government buildings are allowed and others are prohibited for carry. I'm lookin for where 308 would/wouldn't allow carry on campuses. It was a busy day at work and I didn't get to read all of the text of the bill, so I am more than likely simply confused at this point. Sounds like SB11 was referred to committee today so it may end up being a moot point. I'm going to try and sit down and read through the introduced text start to end this evening.
Cool.

From earlier posts, the current text with the committee substitute may not be available yet.
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Re: HB308

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Post by RoyGBiv » Thu May 07, 2015 8:51 am

Still no new text posted online...
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... Bill=HB308" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anyone have any news on what's changed in the committee substitute? :bigear:
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Re: HB308

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Post by tornado » Fri May 08, 2015 8:15 am

I haven't read it, but the new text is up. http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... Bill=HB308" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

EDIT: I've read it. Highlights:
  • Class C unless oral warning and didn't leave, then Class A
  • Clarifies being around a field trip (but allow carry in schools unless the school allows it in written regulations or written authorization)
  • removes the hospital, amusement park, religious center, and judge/DA sections that were already defense to prosecution
  • adds resident retired federal judges
This is not the HB308 I knew and loved. I like the class reduction, but making it all go away would have been so much better.
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Re: HB308

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Post by RHenriksen » Fri May 08, 2015 8:33 am

From what I can figure out on first reading of the committee substitute, we get a reduction of violating a 30.06 sign from Class A misdemeanor to Class C, and.... I really can't see anything else of significance.
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Re: HB308

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Post by joelamosobadiah » Fri May 08, 2015 8:40 am

From what I see it clears up a lot of uncertainty around schools, particularly field trips, it clears up the confusion having hospitals, churches, and amusement parks listed even though they have to post 30.06 anyway, and reduces the penalty.

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