Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

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Post by KC5AV » Fri May 22, 2015 8:48 pm

Wow. She pulled her amendment to the amendment. I guess it wasn't germane.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Fri May 22, 2015 8:49 pm

Huffman just pulled down her amendment.
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Post by Paragrouper » Fri May 22, 2015 8:49 pm

And there goes the amendment to the amendment
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 22, 2015 8:50 pm

TXBO wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Senator Huffman was just asked by Senator West if she would withdraw her amendment if Senator Huffines would withdraw his amendment. She said yes.... if Huffines would withdraw his, she would withdraw hers. Under further questioning, she concedes that failure to withdraw both amendments would force the bill into conference with the house, and possibly kill the bill.

HB910 is a good bill, AS IS, without further amendments.

I cannot support what Huffines is doing......... NOT necessarily because he's wrong on the issue (Oklahoma has a similar law)...... but because his tactic is threatening to sink the whole thing, and THAT is inexcusable. If you don't like what I've just said, Senator ELLISON has spoken in favor of Huffman's amendment precisely because it will open up a chance for him to filibuster the bill late in the session and kill it.

This is what happens when tyros play with political dynamite....... and Huffines is a tyro.
I find it odd that you vilify him and give Huffman a pass. My understanding is that the Huffine amendment is identical to Dutton amendment. If this is true, Ellison will not get another chance to kill it. It goes straight to Abbott.
Huffines caused this problem. I'm not at all happy with Huffman, but this Bill would have passed this morning had he not pulled this garbage.

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Post by txglock21 » Fri May 22, 2015 8:50 pm

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TXBO wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Senator Huffman was just asked by Senator West if she would withdraw her amendment if Senator Huffines would withdraw his amendment. She said yes.... if Huffines would withdraw his, she would withdraw hers. Under further questioning, she concedes that failure to withdraw both amendments would force the bill into conference with the house, and possibly kill the bill.

HB910 is a good bill, AS IS, without further amendments.

I cannot support what Huffines is doing......... NOT necessarily because he's wrong on the issue (Oklahoma has a similar law)...... but because his tactic is threatening to sink the whole thing, and THAT is inexcusable. If you don't like what I've just said, Senator ELLISON has spoken in favor of Huffman's amendment precisely because it will open up a chance for him to filibuster the bill late in the session and kill it.

This is what happens when tyros play with political dynamite....... and Huffines is a tyro.
I find it odd that you vilify him and give Huffman a pass. My understanding is that the Huffine amendment is identical to Dutton amendment. If this is true, Ellison will not get another chance to kill it. It goes straight to Abbott.
Huffines caused this problem. I'm not at all happy with Huffman, but this Bill would have passed this morning had he not pulled this garbage.

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Post by Jasonw560 » Fri May 22, 2015 8:50 pm

Here goes the vote...
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Post by TXBO » Fri May 22, 2015 8:51 pm

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TXBO wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Senator Huffman was just asked by Senator West if she would withdraw her amendment if Senator Huffines would withdraw his amendment. She said yes.... if Huffines would withdraw his, she would withdraw hers. Under further questioning, she concedes that failure to withdraw both amendments would force the bill into conference with the house, and possibly kill the bill.

HB910 is a good bill, AS IS, without further amendments.

I cannot support what Huffines is doing......... NOT necessarily because he's wrong on the issue (Oklahoma has a similar law)...... but because his tactic is threatening to sink the whole thing, and THAT is inexcusable. If you don't like what I've just said, Senator ELLISON has spoken in favor of Huffman's amendment precisely because it will open up a chance for him to filibuster the bill late in the session and kill it.

This is what happens when tyros play with political dynamite....... and Huffines is a tyro.
I find it odd that you vilify him and give Huffman a pass. My understanding is that the Huffine amendment is identical to Dutton amendment. If this is true, Ellison will not get another chance to kill it. It goes straight to Abbott.
Huffines caused this problem. I'm not at all happy with Huffman, but this Bill would have passed this morning had he not pulled this garbage.

Chas.
But if it passes tonight and goes straight to the Governor, it's worth it.

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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 22, 2015 8:52 pm

KC5AV wrote:Wow. She pulled her amendment to the amendment. I guess it wasn't germane.
Or something else.

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Post by SewTexas » Fri May 22, 2015 8:52 pm

wow! she pulled her amendment to the amendment and he didn't pull his, that surprised me.
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Post by Jasonw560 » Fri May 22, 2015 8:53 pm

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KC5AV wrote:Wow. She pulled her amendment to the amendment. I guess it wasn't germane.
Or something else.

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I vote for the something else.

But before I do, I have an amendment...
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Post by Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 22, 2015 8:55 pm

TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TXBO wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Senator Huffman was just asked by Senator West if she would withdraw her amendment if Senator Huffines would withdraw his amendment. She said yes.... if Huffines would withdraw his, she would withdraw hers. Under further questioning, she concedes that failure to withdraw both amendments would force the bill into conference with the house, and possibly kill the bill.

HB910 is a good bill, AS IS, without further amendments.

I cannot support what Huffines is doing......... NOT necessarily because he's wrong on the issue (Oklahoma has a similar law)...... but because his tactic is threatening to sink the whole thing, and THAT is inexcusable. If you don't like what I've just said, Senator ELLISON has spoken in favor of Huffman's amendment precisely because it will open up a chance for him to filibuster the bill late in the session and kill it.

This is what happens when tyros play with political dynamite....... and Huffines is a tyro.
I find it odd that you vilify him and give Huffman a pass. My understanding is that the Huffine amendment is identical to Dutton amendment. If this is true, Ellison will not get another chance to kill it. It goes straight to Abbott.
Huffines caused this problem. I'm not at all happy with Huffman, but this Bill would have passed this morning had he not pulled this garbage.

Chas.
But if it passes tonight and goes straight to the Governor, it's worth it.
That's like saying it's okay to draw out your family's life savings and bet all of it on one hand of Blackjack, because it will be worth it if you win. Risking the loss of both open-carry and campus-carry to get an amendment that will have absolutely no impact in the real world is a very poor bet.

Chas.

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Post by Glockster » Fri May 22, 2015 8:57 pm

Finally! The vote on the amendment!
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Post by KC5AV » Fri May 22, 2015 8:57 pm

Did Estes say he was voting against the amendment or the bill?
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Post by Jasonw560 » Fri May 22, 2015 8:57 pm

KC5AV wrote:Did Estes say he was voting against the amendment or the bill?
Against
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Post by Glockster » Fri May 22, 2015 8:58 pm

Against the amendment.
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