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Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:55 pm
by The Annoyed Man
der Teufel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:53 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:48 pm
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "ham sandwich indictment"?
I think there's "an old saying" that a DA can present whatever evidence to a grand jury they feel appropriate, omitting what doesn't fit their narrative, such that they could indict a ham sandwich of a crime if they desired to do so.
Ah. Thanks.
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:32 pm
by rtschl
The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:48 pm
dlh wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:56 am
rtschl wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:54 pm
The couple has been indicted.
A grand jury in St. Louis on Tuesday indicted Mark and Patricia McCloskey on counts of exhibiting a weapon and tampering with evidence four months after footage circulated showing the couple pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside their home.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... protesters
In my opinion Kim Gardner has indicted the proverbial "ham sandwich." She should have to try the case herself. However, would not surprise
me at all if she passes it off to one of her assistants. There was a District Attorney in Texas who kept "ham sandwiches" to a minimum. He told his assistants if you indict a ham sandwich then YOU get to try the ham sandwich--really cut down on the ham sandwich indictments in his district.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "ham sandwich indictment"?
The origin of the phrase is Judge Solomon Wachtler, who was later charged and convicted of crimes himself.
Solomon "Sol" Wachtler (born April 29, 1930) is an American lawyer and Republican politician from New York.[1] He was Chief Judge of the New York Court of Appeals from 1985 to 1992.[2] Wachtler's most famous quote, made shortly after his appointment as Chief Judge, was that district attorneys could get grand juries to "indict a ham sandwich."[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Wachtler
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:48 pm
by chasfm11
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:49 pm
by RottenApple
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“Ms. Gardner has every right to rebut criticism, but it appears unnecessary to stigmatize defendant – or even mention him – in campaign solicitations, especially when she purports to be responding to others,” he wrote. “In fact, the case law and Rules of Professional Conduct prohibit it.”
Then the prosecutor and any other related attorneys involved should be disbarred and ethics violations brought up.
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:28 am
by philip964
Wow, don’t see that ever day!
Dang an honest judge.
I can’t believe any DA would do that.
But leave it to a Dem to think of that.
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:36 pm
by ELB
Wow indeed,
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 am
by philip964
https://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-couple- ... 25894.html
Judge sends case back to grand jury.
Don’t know if I have seen this before.
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:29 am
by Grayling813
The judge hasn't done anything yet. The McCloskeys have asked the judge to return the case to the grand jury.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 268d9.html
It wasn’t clear ahead of Friday's hearing when Circuit Judge David Mason would issue a decision.
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:37 pm
by philip964
'Squad' Dem Cori Bush praises St. Louis' 'historic' vote to 'defund' police
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad- ... und-police
What’s St. Louis’s crime rate?
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:06 pm
by Paladin
Crime rate there is real bad.
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:44 pm
by philip964
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:51 am
by Paladin
Kim Gardner faces professional misconduct probe, could lose law license
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:05 pm
by philip964
Paladin wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:51 am
Kim Gardner faces professional misconduct probe, could lose law license
https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... against-ex
This sounds pretty serious. Not against our St. Louis couple, due to prosecution of former Governor. Lying to judges, stuff like that.
Awe.
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:36 pm
by Paladin
St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner, one of the early local prosecutors bankrolled by liberal megadonor George Soros since 2016, engaged in 62 acts of misconduct that resulted in 79 false representations during Greitens' now-dismissed criminal prosecution
Kim and George are busy people! Sounds like Kim could go to jail for this one:
Gardner also remains under criminal investigation by a special prosecutor...
Re: MO: St. Louis Lawyers Defend Mansion From BLM Protesters In Viral Video
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:44 pm
by Grayling813
Or as they call it in St. Louis...business as usual.