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Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:17 pm
by Papa_Tiger
tx85 wrote:
Papa_Tiger wrote:HB 913 - De-regulation of Suppressors, other non-NFA items - On Senate Local and Consent Calendar
That's not what HB913 does. The latest version (passed out of Senate committee) bans "improvised explosive devices".
Whoops! I'm completely messed up here! That was supposed to be HB 1819 which was already sent to the governor. I'll fix my post above.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:15 pm
by powerboatr
wow...2 more years and not much was done.

my reps are about to get unloaded on.
glad some firearm legislation was done..
but they dropped ball on other important items

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:42 pm
by doncb
powerboatr wrote:wow...2 more years and not much was done.
If you listen closely you can here the plaintive sound of the LTC. "Maybe in 2 years. Maybe in 2 years." You can hear it every 2 years for some reason.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:53 pm
by ScottDLS
We need to name these bills better - "The helping children and cute cuddly kittens, by removing restrictions act". What are you AGAINST CHILDREN AND KITTENS? :mad5

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:14 pm
by The Dude
Unless they pull off a legislative Hail Mary, it looks like incumbents have an uphill battle next year.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:29 am
by SewTexas
guys, I literally heard one of the leges say that the reason some bill that was suppose to be for psych services for kids didn't get passed was because they reduced the fee for CHLs and that reduced the budget by MILLIONS of dollars! seriously, that's what he said!
Now, 1. you'd have a hard time convincing me that reducing the fee by that much reduced any budget by that much. and 2. I thought our fee money wasn't suppose to be going into the General Budget, it was suppose to be paying for the CHL processing only, therefore it should be staying within DPS.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:06 am
by Flightmare
SewTexas wrote:guys, I literally heard one of the leges say that the reason some bill that was suppose to be for psych services for kids didn't get passed was because they reduced the fee for CHLs and that reduced the budget by MILLIONS of dollars! seriously, that's what he said!
Now, 1. you'd have a hard time convincing me that reducing the fee by that much reduced any budget by that much. and 2. I thought our fee money wasn't suppose to be going into the General Budget, it was suppose to be paying for the CHL processing only, therefore it should be staying within DPS.
What should be happening, and what WAS happening are 2 different things. The excess was funneled into the general fund, hence why it should have been a slam dunk to reduce the fee to just he cost to the state.

As to the larger question of this thread;
Did we get shut out this year?

There are many things that I and others would have liked to see but didn't come to fruition (HB 560 comes to mind). However to say that we were "shut out" I think is misleading.
  • SB 16 passed reducing the fees for new and renewal of LTCs. This should hopefully increase the number of LTCs, and therefore increase the impact that LTCs have on society.

    SB 263 is still a possibility to remove the minimum caliber restriction for the LTC proficiency test.

    SB 2065 was amended for volunteer security at places of worship and may still pass.
There are still others that are pending that may help to further restore 2nd amendment rights. We may not have got everything we wanted on our wish list, but we DID make progress.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 8:29 am
by gljjt
doncb wrote:
powerboatr wrote:wow...2 more years and not much was done.
If you listen closely you can here the plaintive sound of the LTC. "Maybe in 2 years. Maybe in 2 years." You can hear it every 2 years for some reason.

Yep. Didn't roll back 140 years of bad laws in one session. Total failure. /SARCASM OFF

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:59 am
by 4copas
Take a look at all the bad gun bills filed that attack our 2nd amendment rights. Good and bad bills listed here by Charles.

https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... ve-session

As far as I can tell, attacking bills got nowhere. While we didn't get all we wanted to move forward, we did fight off going backwards. That fight will always be there, probably increases sad to say.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:34 pm
by jmorris
SewTexas wrote:guys, I literally heard one of the leges say that the reason some bill that was suppose to be for psych services for kids didn't get passed was because they reduced the fee for CHLs and that reduced the budget by MILLIONS of dollars! seriously, that's what he said!
Now, 1. you'd have a hard time convincing me that reducing the fee by that much reduced any budget by that much. and 2. I thought our fee money wasn't suppose to be going into the General Budget, it was suppose to be paying for the CHL processing only, therefore it should be staying within DPS.
I'd always heard the opposite, that all fees went into the general fund with the DPS LTC folks having a set budget. This is why they couldn't ramp up during the high volume times.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:34 pm
by TreyHouston
:iagree:

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:49 pm
by Ruark
4copas wrote:Take a look at all the bad gun bills filed that attack our 2nd amendment rights. Good and bad bills listed here by Charles.
https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... ve-session
Excellent document. Found a typo in HB 913. Should be "NFA paperwork," not "NRA paperwork."

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 11:50 am
by flintknapper
4copas wrote:Take a look at all the bad gun bills filed that attack our 2nd amendment rights. Good and bad bills listed here by Charles.

https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... ve-session

As far as I can tell, attacking bills got nowhere. While we didn't get all we wanted to move forward, we did fight off going backwards. That fight will always be there, probably increases sad to say.
A little disappointed, but I agree...there was progress made and also the staving off of bad gun bills was a good thing.

I guess its just disheartening when I see bills like 560 not make much headway but a bill to allow such frivolous things as Shooting Feral Hogs from a Hot Air Balloon make the grade. Sheeeesh.

You know that's got to be important! :roll:


"H.B. 3535 amends the Parks and Wildlife Code to authorize a qualified landowner or landowner's agent, as determined by Parks and Wildlife Commission rule, to contract to participate as a hunter or observer in using a hot air balloon to take depredating feral hogs or coyotes under the authority of a permit to manage wildlife and exotic animals from aircraft. The bill requires the commission to adopt rules as necessary to implement the bill.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... ill=HB3535
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Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:10 pm
by FCMatt
Knife law is signed today and in effect 9/1

Since knives are most definitely a 2 A item, getting rid of 90% of the carry restrictions on them makes this year not a shut out in my opinion.

Time to upgrade my large cold steel espada to an XL in the new powder steel. :txflag:

Ooh, and a REAL Bowie knife, and a double edged benchmade auto.
Gov. Abbot, you gonna ruin my bank balance now :cheers2:

Somebody make sure to link the first Conan the barbarian or walking dead samurai to walk through downtown in September. This is gonna be fun.

Re: Did we get shut out this year

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:23 pm
by TreyHouston
FCMatt wrote:Knife law is signed today and in effect 9/1

Since knives are most definitely a 2 A item, getting rid of 90% of the carry restrictions on them makes this year not a shut out in my opinion.

Time to upgrade my large cold steel espada to an XL in the new powder steel. :txflag:

Ooh, and a REAL Bowie knife, and a double edged benchmade auto.
Gov. Abbot, you gonna ruin my bank balance now :cheers2:

Somebody make sure to link the first Conan the barbarian or walking dead samurai to walk through downtown in September. This is gonna be fun.
"rlol" ya know its gonna happen too! There is always one nut in the bag that will put it on YouTube