Repeal the 2nd Amendment

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bblhd672 wrote:
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Middle Age Russ wrote:... but we must do something for public safety -- for the kids!! The hew and cry continues -- in the names of the children to elicit a more favorable response and shut down fact-based dialog and debate. The arguments to deny rights and limit Liberty for "public safety" are those of tyrants and dictators. Truly well educated people understand such lessons from history. Alas, we live in an age of indoctrination rather than education.
Raising the driving age to 25 would save a ton of lives. That also would not violate anyone's fundamental human rights as guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution. Why aren't these kiddos starting with that particular piece of low hanging fruit? Could it be that they are only worried about things that don't impact them personally?
They are children being led around by politically savvy manipulators. Because they are children, logic and reason are not fully developed, even more the case in those who are in the education system which is no longer interested in creating independent thinkers full of knowledge and facts.

These children are not the problem, the problem is that progressive socialists are using mind numbed and traumatized children to pursue their agenda of complete power over the people.
"Never let a crisis go to waste". It's straight out of the Socialist play book circa Hussein Obama's reign.
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Post by Flightmare » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:06 am

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Post by J.R.@A&M » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:23 am

“[T]he liberties of the American people [are] dependent upon the ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box; that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country.” Life and Times of Frederick Douglass

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Post by bblhd672 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:49 am

J.R.@A&M wrote:This NR column is still relevant. https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/08/ ... nt-repeal/
Excellent article. Somewhat alarming in that the author said in August 2015 that there wasn't open calls for repealing the 2nd Amendment. Now in March 2018 that is exactly what the left is calling for in much greater numbers than ever before.

Here's a more recent article by same author, sheds some light on those statements about "most americans favor more gun control".
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/t ... trol-poll/
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Post by PriestTheRunner » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:52 am

J.R.@A&M wrote:This NR column is still relevant. https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/08/ ... nt-repeal/
This is really good.

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Post by bblhd672 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:05 am

Another NYT op-ed calling for repeal of 2nd Amendment. And this guy is supposedly the "conservative" on NYT's editorial staff, and an avowed "Never Trumper".
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/opin ... t-nra.html
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Post by Soccerdad1995 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:32 am

This is what happens when we deliberately fail to teach history to our younger generations.

From the beginning of time, the strong controlled the weak. They promised protection and relative prosperity in exchange for fealty and servitude. There were rulers and there were subjects. Then along came some radical thinkers like Locke and Paine with crazy notions like people not needing to be subservient to rulers, and that people could choose governments that worked at the people's behest, instead of the other way around.

The founders of this country took these ideas and ran with them. They enjoyed comfort and prosperity and yet they risked all that they owned, along with their very lives on a grand experiment to see if this notion of self government could actually work. They declared that whenever a government becomes destructive of the people's rights, it is the right, and even the obligation, of the people to overthrow that government and institute a new one in it's place. Once they had won independence, these same people enumerated a number of rights, including the right to keep and bear arms. Along with freedom of speech and other rights, this gave the people the means to fulfill that obligation which was so eloquently stated in the Declaration of Independence. This is the reason why the second amendment was included in the Bill of Rights.

And that still leaves open the question of whether we continue to need the ability to resist a tyrannical government. Do we still need freedom of speech, the right to due process, and the right to keep and bear arms? Or have we evolved enough as a society that we no longer have reason to fear that our government will trample on our rights? Personally, I think it is obvious that we cannot trust our government with absolute, unchecked, power. And I think most people feel the same way, even those who voted for Hillie in the last election. The problem is that they do not understand the real background behind the Bill of Rights. They do not understand the connection between gun bans and the inevitable rise of tyranny.

I feel it is important to point out that I am not advocating for the overthrow of our government. I am simply pointing out that we need to maintain the ability to do so, or to at least put up a meaningful level of resistance to potential oppression.
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Post by Middle Age Russ » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:55 pm

:iagree:

As for
These children are not the problem
, I think perhaps that it should read "These children are not the problem YET". They will be joining the ranks of voters soon, and ill-educated voters are apt to continue to be manipulated by others.
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Post by 1911 Raptor » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:55 pm

RoyGBiv wrote:Worth noting that Stevens was nominated to the Court in 1975 by REPUBLICAN Gerald Ford.

Nice vetting Gerry. :grumble
Almost as bad as Bush and Chief Justice Roberts!

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Post by Grundy1133 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:10 pm

while we're at it why not just throw the whole constitution out the window! The values this country was built on. The values that have been holding this country together for more than 200 years. By all means, lets just throw em to the wind and bring in a new age of anarchy and lawlessness! These people NEED. TO. BE. STOPPED. When is enough, enough? The continual bastardization of the Constitution of the United States NEEDS to stop. :mad5
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Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendment

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Post by 4copas » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:01 pm

Grundy1133 wrote:while we're at it why not just throw the whole constitution out the window! The values this country was built on. The values that have been holding this country together for more than 200 years. By all means, lets just throw em to the wind and bring in a new age of anarchy and lawlessness! These people NEED. TO. BE. STOPPED. When is enough, enough? The continual bastardization of the Constitution of the United States NEEDS to stop. :mad5
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Post by flechero » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:11 pm

That was salty! The look on her face was priceless. We need a few more like Mr. Gowdy

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Post by Paladin » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:51 pm

flechero wrote:
That was salty! The look on her face was priceless. We need a few more like Mr. Gowdy
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Post by 4copas » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:09 pm

Some repeat but more good stuff.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h4CKIDDBFaA
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Post by John Galt » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:22 pm

If the Liberals, Socialists, Communists (and I repeat myself) are serious about protecting kids, then end abortion.

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