Gun Storage programs in Texas?

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Gun Storage programs in Texas?

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Post by Beiruty » Mon May 27, 2019 6:51 pm

Where did this come from?
Last minute torpedo measure?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas- ... n=campaign
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Post by bblhd672 » Mon May 27, 2019 6:53 pm

By our “allies” the Republicans no less. :banghead:
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Post by AF-Odin » Mon May 27, 2019 7:04 pm

Read the Foxnews article and could not tell exactly WHAT this law says regarding storage. Does anyone know WHAT this says? We already have laws regarding making firearms available to a child with enhanced penalties if someone is injured or killed.

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Post by G.A. Heath » Mon May 27, 2019 7:19 pm

I tracked down what I believe is the actual legislation, this snippet is from HB1:
48.Statewide Safe Gun Storage Campaign. Included in the amounts appropriated above in Strategy G.1.1, Headquarters Administration, is $500,000 in fiscal year 2020 and $500,000 in fiscal year 2021 in General Revenue to establish and promote a statewide safe gun storage campaign. The public awareness campaign shall begin no later than September 1, 2020. The public awareness campaign may include online materials, printed materials, public service announcements, or other advertising media. The public awareness campaign may not convey a message that it is unlawful under state law to keep or store a firearm that is loaded or that is readily accessible for self-defense.
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Post by AF-Odin » Mon May 27, 2019 7:34 pm

Thanks G.A. If all they are doing is an awareness campaign, think that $1 million over two years needs to go to NRA and TSRA educational initiatives. :biggrinjester:
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Post by jason812 » Mon May 27, 2019 7:38 pm

AF-Odin wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Thanks G.A. If all they are doing is an awareness campaign, think that $1 million over two years needs to go to NRA and TSRA educational initiatives. :biggrinjester:
Or put Eddie Eagle in K thru 12 curriculum. I know its crazy to actually teach the kids something useful.

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Post by Beiruty » Mon May 27, 2019 7:44 pm

Bring back firearms education (including marksman shooting skills) to HS.
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Post by OneGun » Mon May 27, 2019 8:04 pm

Beiruty wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Bring back firearms education (including marksman shooting skills) to HS.
Great Idea, but the self-serving liberal progressives will claim erroneously that the purpose of the education is to teach violence and then blow it out of proportion with a social media (and fake news) campaigns.
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Post by Beiruty » Mon May 27, 2019 8:09 pm

OneGun wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 8:04 pm
Beiruty wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Bring back firearms education (including marksman shooting skills) to HS.
Great Idea, but the self-serving liberal progressives will claim erroneously that the purpose of the education is to teach violence and then blow it out of proportion with a social media (and fake news) campaigns.
Those who serve in the National Guard and the US Armed forces are not blowing melons left and right, no?
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Post by bblhd672 » Tue May 28, 2019 5:18 pm

Received email below from TSRA:

Dear TSRA Members, Family and Friends:

Gun Storage and Fake News

The media has reported a bill passed in the Texas Legislature dealing with firearms storage restrictions.

This is not only misleading, it is untrue, hog-wash, and wrong!

The lines below were added to a budget bill authorizing a relatively small amount of funding for the Texas Department of Public Safety to develop a gun storage safety information campaign.

Currently there is gun storage information on the DPS website and safe gun storage has always been part of other programs such as the LTC class materials.

The exact language of what was included in this portion of the budget bill is below. The underlined language was added to confirm legislative intent and as a safe-guard. It was added by a State Representative, a staunch supporter of Texas gun-rights.

It reads as follows:
Statewide Safe Gun Storage Campaign. Included in the amounts appropriated above in Strategy G.1.1, Headquarters Administration, is $500,000 in fiscal year 2020 and $500,000 in fiscal year 2021 in General Revenue to establish and promote a statewide safe gun storage campaign.
The public awareness campaign shall begin no later than September 1, 2020. The public awareness campaign may include online materials, printed materials, public service announcements, or other advertising media. The public awareness campaign may not convey a message that it is unlawful under state law to keep or store a firearm that is loaded or that is readily accessible for self- defense.


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Texas State Rifle Association
the NRA state affiliate
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Post by ELB » Tue May 28, 2019 5:21 pm

The money would have been better spent free LTCs, or even better, reducing state debt.
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Post by The Annoyed Man » Tue May 28, 2019 5:32 pm

My understanding is that Gov. Abbott has line item veto power? If so, he may well veto that line item so that he can sign the budget bill. In any case:
bblhd672 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 5:18 pm
Received email below from TSRA:

Dear TSRA Members, Family and Friends:

Gun Storage and Fake News

The media has reported a bill passed in the Texas Legislature dealing with firearms storage restrictions.

This is not only misleading, it is untrue, hog-wash, and wrong!

The lines below were added to a budget bill authorizing a relatively small amount of funding for the Texas Department of Public Safety to develop a gun storage safety information campaign.

Currently there is gun storage information on the DPS website and safe gun storage has always been part of other programs such as the LTC class materials.

The exact language of what was included in this portion of the budget bill is below. The underlined language was added to confirm legislative intent and as a safe-guard. It was added by a State Representative, a staunch supporter of Texas gun-rights.

It reads as follows:
Statewide Safe Gun Storage Campaign. Included in the amounts appropriated above in Strategy G.1.1, Headquarters Administration, is $500,000 in fiscal year 2020 and $500,000 in fiscal year 2021 in General Revenue to establish and promote a statewide safe gun storage campaign.
The public awareness campaign shall begin no later than September 1, 2020. The public awareness campaign may include online materials, printed materials, public service announcements, or other advertising media. The public awareness campaign may not convey a message that it is unlawful under state law to keep or store a firearm that is loaded or that is readily accessible for self- defense.


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Alice Tripp
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Texas State Rifle Association
the NRA state affiliate
The highlighted part seems to indicate that this "sends a message", but mandates nothing.
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Post by strogg » Tue May 28, 2019 8:32 pm

Here's the thing for me. I am all about gun safety in every form. Whether that is keeping it locked up so irresponsible people don't get their hands on them, or keeping your finger off the trigger, or keeping the firearm pointed in a safe direction. I believe that firearm safety should be taught and ingrained in all people (especially at an early age) so that they respect the firearm and treat it responsibly, not fear it. And most importantly, people should respect each other's right to bear arms if they so wish to exercise that right. I'm not about to force responsible people to buy guns if they don't want to. I won't be stopping them either. It's their decision to make, not mine.

With that being said, the earmark is the equivalent of a household spending $30 a year for two years to promote a narrow view of gun safety. If the view was expanded in scope to what I described, then I'd say $30 well spent. In its current form, it's still better than throwing $30 out the window, but not a complete waste imo.


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Post by apostate » Tue May 28, 2019 10:41 pm

This PSA is a legislative priority for Texas Gun Sense.
https://www.txgunsense.org/articles/why ... y-campaign

I'm sure it will be devoid of bias. :skep:


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Post by chasfm11 » Wed May 29, 2019 6:53 am

apostate wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 10:41 pm
This PSA is a legislative priority for Texas Gun Sense.
https://www.txgunsense.org/articles/why ... y-campaign

I'm sure it will be devoid of bias. :skep:
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