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Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:53 pm
by Paladin
Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
In a ruling that has both sides claiming victory, a federal appeals court upheld some parts of New York State's Concealed Carry Improvement Act (CCIA), however other aspects were struck down
The court's decision, which combined four lower court cases due to overlapping issues, overturned some lower court rulings while sustaining others. Notably, the court invalidated the CCIA's ban on gun possession on private property without explicit permission and lifted the prohibition of gun possession in places of worship. Additionally, it rejected the mandate for concealed carry permit applicants to disclose their social media accounts to authorities.
However, the court upheld several CCIA provisions, including the need for applicants to show good moral character and disclose family members on permit applications. It maintained the ban on concealed carry in designated “sensitive places,” with the notable exception of places of worship, and upheld requirements for an interview, character references, and extensive training.
Not sure exactly what disclosing family members is about??
Re: Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:35 pm
by Chemist45
How does one prove "Good moral character"?
Re: Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:07 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Chemist45 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:35 pm
How does one prove "Good moral character"?
The court struck down New York's requirement for applicants to turn over their social media identities, which the state was trying to include in the "good moral character" requirement. It was struck down on a 1st Amendment basis … which is the correct decision. Had they not struck it down, New York would make sure that nobody but the most politically correct lefties would ever get a carry license.
Re: Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:19 am
by oohrah
Paladin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:53 pm
Not sure exactly what disclosing family members is about??
So they can BG check family to keep Mom's from making straw purchases for their little darlings.
Re: Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:20 pm
by Paladin
oohrah wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:19 am
Paladin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:53 pm
Not sure exactly what disclosing family members is about??
So they can BG check family to keep Mom's from making straw purchases for their little darlings.
I could see a effect with regards to straw purchases, but not carrying. I guess NY laws are so rigid you might not be able to make a purchase without a carry license?
Re: Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:42 pm
by Chemist45
Paladin asked:
I could see a effect with regards to straw purchases, but not carrying. I guess NY laws are so rigid you might not be able to make a purchase without a carry license?
I left NY 18 years ago, but when I lived there - yes. Your purchase permit was your carry license.
It was really stupid. You could not touch a gun without a purchase permit.
Re: Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:22 pm
by puma guy
Chemist45 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:35 pm
How does one prove "Good moral character"?
Don't run for political office.
Re: Court Ruling Shakes Up New York's Concealed Carry Law Landscape
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:16 pm
by Paladin
Is there a "moral character" cap on the percentage "THE BIG GUY" gets? Like 10% is okay, but 20% is banana republic?
Is $872K on escorts is ok as long as you don't skip out on the $1.4M income tax owed?