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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:32 pm

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This is a cautionary tale in many respects. One that stands out to me is that should I be force to use my self-defense handgun, I will be; 1) in fear for my life, 2) under extreme stress, 3) deciding and acting in seconds. Conversely, the jury will be; 1) in complete safety and relative comfort, 2) under relatively little stress, 3) deciding and acting in hours/days/weeks. What seemed reasonable to me in the moment may not appear reasonable to the jury in hindsight.
This is so very true! Sitting in a nice safe court room it is easy to arm chair quarterback.

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Post by anygunanywhere » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:02 pm

There is no justice system. We have a legal system.
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Post by WildBill » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:18 pm

I have been reading some news reports about the shooting of Botham Jean and many of them
reveal that he was eating vanilla ice cream in his apartment when he was shot and killed.
Am I reading too much into this or would it have mattered if he was eating chocolate ice cream? :headscratch

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/dalla ... index.html
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Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

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Post by carlson1 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:30 pm

WildBill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:18 pm
I have been reading some news reports about the shooting of Botham Jean and many of them
reveal that he was eating vanilla ice cream in his apartment when he was shot and killed.
Am I reading too much into this or would it have mattered if he was eating chocolate ice cream? :headscratch

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/dalla ... index.html
He had just smoked marijuana with the neighbor who was killed a week or so back. I guess the marijuana gave him the munchies and the ice cream was a fix.
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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:31 pm

WildBill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:18 pm
I have been reading some news reports about the shooting of Botham Jean and many of them
reveal that he was eating vanilla ice cream in his apartment when he was shot and killed.
Am I reading too much into this or would it have mattered if he was eating chocolate ice cream? :headscratch

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/dalla ... index.html
I kept wondering if he put chocolate syrup and peanuts on it or was just eating it plain.

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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:33 pm

carlson1 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:30 pm
WildBill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:18 pm
I have been reading some news reports about the shooting of Botham Jean and many of them
reveal that he was eating vanilla ice cream in his apartment when he was shot and killed.
Am I reading too much into this or would it have mattered if he was eating chocolate ice cream? :headscratch

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/dalla ... index.html
He had just smoked marijuana with the neighbor who was killed a week or so back. I guess the marijuana gave him the munchies and the ice cream was a fix.
I dunno. If he had the munchies he would have been sitting there with a loaf of bread, a jar of peanut butter and pizza rolls heating up in his oven.

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Post by anygunanywhere » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:32 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:33 pm
carlson1 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:30 pm
WildBill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:18 pm
I have been reading some news reports about the shooting of Botham Jean and many of them
reveal that he was eating vanilla ice cream in his apartment when he was shot and killed.
Am I reading too much into this or would it have mattered if he was eating chocolate ice cream? :headscratch

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/us/dalla ... index.html
He had just smoked marijuana with the neighbor who was killed a week or so back. I guess the marijuana gave him the munchies and the ice cream was a fix.
I dunno. If he had the munchies he would have been sitting there with a loaf of bread, a jar of peanut butter and pizza rolls heating up in his oven.
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Post by hondo44 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:49 pm

anygunanywhere wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:02 pm
There is no justice system. We have a legal system.
No. It's called the Department of Justice, not the Department of Legal.
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Post by anygunanywhere » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:42 am

hondo44 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:49 pm
anygunanywhere wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:02 pm
There is no justice system. We have a legal system.
No. It's called the Department of Justice, not the Department of Legal.
I stand by my statement.

If you think the Dept of Justice is about justice, you need to ask the Branch Davidians, Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Lavoy Finicum at Malheur, and all of the other victims murdered at the hands of the Dept of Justice.

Oh yes, also look at your goddess Hitlery. You call the investigation into her justice? Communist justice maybe.
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Post by Liberty » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:50 am

anygunanywhere wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:42 am
hondo44 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:49 pm
anygunanywhere wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:02 pm
There is no justice system. We have a legal system.
No. It's called the Department of Justice, not the Department of Legal.
I stand by my statement.

If you think the Dept of Justice is about justice, you need to ask the Branch Davidians, Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Lavoy Finicum at Malheur, and all of the other victims murdered at the hands of the Dept of Justice.

Oh yes, also look at your goddess Hitlery. You call the investigation into her justice? Communist justice maybe.
Regardless, we have the best justice/legal system that money can buy.
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Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

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Post by philip964 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:32 pm

https://news.yahoo.com/dallas-dismissed ... 24880.html

Federal Judge rules Suit against the City of Dallas lacked something. Dismissed. Not sure if this is a big deal or they will refine with this corrected.

Mentions ice cream again.

If you live in an apartment, don’t leave door unlatched or unlocked.

I have a popular car in a popular color. I don’t have to unlock the car door it does it magically for me when I pull the handle. A while back at a Whataburger parking lot, I scared the bejusus out me and a man in the driver’s seat who was surfing his phone, when I opened his car door. Neither one of us shot the other.

I have put a ribbon on the door handle.


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Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

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Post by Grayling813 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:25 pm

philip964 wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:32 pm
https://news.yahoo.com/dallas-dismissed ... 24880.html

Federal Judge rules Suit against the City of Dallas lacked something. Dismissed. Not sure if this is a big deal or they will refine with this corrected.

Mentions ice cream again.

If you live in an apartment, don’t leave door unlatched or unlocked.

I have a popular car in a popular color. I don’t have to unlock the car door it does it magically for me when I pull the handle. A while back at a Whataburger parking lot, I scared the bejusus out me and a man in the driver’s seat who was surfing his phone, when I opened his car door. Neither one of us shot the other.

I have put a ribbon on the door handle.
Sounds like maybe Botham’s family hired an attorney who specializes in finding racism everywhere rather than actual law.
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Post by WildBill » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:18 pm

The city of Dallas won’t be held liable for the death of Botham Jean, a federal district judge ruled this week.
U.S. District Judge Barbara Lynn dismissed the city from a civil lawsuit filed by Jean’s family. Jean, a black man
from St. Lucia living in Dallas, was killed in his own home by Amber Guyger, a white off-duty police officer, on Sept. 6, 2018.

Though the lawsuit did not seek a specific amount, Guyger is now the only defendant in the civil lawsuit filed in 2018,
making a high-dollar settlement unlikely.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2019/12 ... ans-death/
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Post by 03Lightningrocks » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:00 pm

WildBill wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:18 pm
The city of Dallas won’t be held liable for the death of Botham Jean, a federal district judge ruled this week.
U.S. District Judge Barbara Lynn dismissed the city from a civil lawsuit filed by Jean’s family. Jean, a black man
from St. Lucia living in Dallas, was killed in his own home by Amber Guyger, a white off-duty police officer, on Sept. 6, 2018.

Though the lawsuit did not seek a specific amount, Guyger is now the only defendant in the civil lawsuit filed in 2018,
making a high-dollar settlement unlikely.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2019/12 ... ans-death/
I suppose this means when a cop is off duty, it is not the Cities responsibility. I tend to agree with this.


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Post by philip964 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:27 am

https://news.yahoo.com/amber-guyger-app ... 50822.html

Amber Guyger, the ex Police officer has filed an appeal to the murder charge.

In my opinion, an employee who is not at work or off duty is on their own.

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