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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by switch » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:02 am

Previously, the 'law' did not specify. The grace period was added aministratively but now conflicts w/the new law.

I don't think the legislators 'meant' to eliminate said grace period. I think the verbage was an over-reaction on their part to some proposed laws that were never passed.

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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by jmra » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:09 am

switch wrote:Previously, the 'law' did not specify. The grace period was added aministratively but now conflicts w/the new law.

I don't think the legislators 'meant' to eliminate said grace period. I think the verbage was an over-reaction on their part to some proposed laws that were never passed.
In that case, I would have to believe a law passed by the legislature would trump something that was previously added administratively.
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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by tbrown » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:04 pm

jmra wrote:
switch wrote:Previously, the 'law' did not specify. The grace period was added aministratively but now conflicts w/the new law where they conflict.

I don't think the legislators 'meant' to eliminate said grace period. I think the verbage was an over-reaction on their part to some proposed laws that were never passed.
In that case, I would have to believe a law passed by the legislature would trump something that was previously added administratively.
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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by infoman » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:24 pm

It's a public relations thing- no way DPS would turn down a renewal that is 1-2 days past their expiration date. We all know many humans procrastinate in general, & there's tons of license holders that renew after they expire. The public would be furious if they did away with the grace period. It also makes DPS look very "anti-gun" to turn down all those renewals. I say no way they drop the grace period anytime soon. If someone on this forum had an older family member who forgot about their renewal & tried to renew 1 day after they expire & were told NO- they would be furious at DPS & probably post their anger on this forum.

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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by jmra » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:47 am

infoman wrote:It's a public relations thing- no way DPS would turn down a renewal that is 1-2 days past their expiration date. We all know many humans procrastinate in general, & there's tons of license holders that renew after they expire. The public would be furious if they did away with the grace period. It also makes DPS look very "anti-gun" to turn down all those renewals. I say no way they drop the grace period anytime soon. If someone on this forum had an older family member who forgot about their renewal & tried to renew 1 day after they expire & were told NO- they would be furious at DPS & probably post their anger on this forum.
So, you are saying public relations should trump law passed by the legislature?
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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by infoman » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:31 am

I'm not saying it should or shouldn't, I'm saying it will be. I'm just stating the facts, which the fact is that they are still actively honoring the 1 year grace period & will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Personally, I'd be cool with them making people re-apply as new apps & forced to take the course over even if 1 day after they expire, but that's just personal opinion. The hard reality is that they are currently honoring the grace period & will continue to do so.

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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by jbarn » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:48 am

I don't understand the argument. The fact is DPS will process applications for renewal up to 1 year after expiration.


In 2009 DPS became required, under law, to issue private security registrations with a photo of the registrant already attached. They didn't do it until last year....

All of the arguing didnt change that, either.

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Re: Deadline for class

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Post by Barbi Q » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:00 pm

jmra wrote:Since they obviously are ignoring the letter of the law they must view it more like suggested guidelines.
Maybe people with expired licenses shouldn't renew. Save some money and carry anywhere they want, because 30.06 and 51% are just suggested guidelines. :shock:
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