Restaurants and 51%..... ?

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Restaurants and 51%..... ?

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Post by Neverpanic1 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:59 pm

Are generally ALL alcohol serving restaurants 51% posted ?
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Post by jmra » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:02 pm

If you are referring the red 51% sign, no. Most restaurants make more money off of food than they do alcohol. Generally bars are the only places that are going to be off limits to CC.
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Post by RetNavy » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:03 pm

Neverpanic1 wrote:Are generally ALL alcohol serving restaurants 51% posted ?

ONLY if 51% of gross receits come from the bar..... restaurants, at least the ones i live by if they serve alcohol have a BLUE sign on them because the money maker is the food, not the booze....
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Post by jbarn » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:05 pm

Neverpanic1 wrote:Are generally ALL alcohol serving restaurants 51% posted ?
Only the ones with REALLY BAD food.
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Post by cw3van » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:39 am

jbarn wrote:
Neverpanic1 wrote:Are generally ALL alcohol serving restaurants 51% posted ?
Only the ones with REALLY BAD food.
That's so true. :lol::
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Post by skeathley » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:17 pm

However, it is possible for a restaurant to have a bar inside with a lot of walk-in business. If the bar is under separate ownership, IT may be marked 51%, and not the restaurant. If same ownership, and the bar does a lot more business than the restaurant, then that could push the alcohol revenue over 51%, but the restaurant would then have to post 51%.

I have never seen a restaurant posted 51%, but then, I don't get out much. :mrgreen:
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Post by tbrown » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:40 pm

skeathley wrote:However, it is possible for a restaurant to have a bar inside with a lot of walk-in business. If the bar is under separate ownership, IT may be marked 51%, and not the restaurant. If same ownership, and the bar does a lot more business than the restaurant, then that could push the alcohol revenue over 51%, but the restaurant would then have to post 51%.
That could happen if a separate business runs the bar but then it would be the bar that's required to post the red sign.
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Post by Neverpanic1 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:43 pm

Thanx Guys ! I was asking only because I spoke with a local restaurant owner about the possibility of posting a "CHL WELCOME HERE" decal on their front door and he said he couldn't because they sold alcohol. I asked about the 51% and they mentioned they were posted.
Whether TABC posted or "self-posted" is unknown. I've yet to visit them....and probably won't.
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Post by Keith B » Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:53 pm

Neverpanic1 wrote:Thanx Guys ! I was asking only because I spoke with a local restaurant owner about the possibility of posting a "CHL WELCOME HERE" decal on their front door and he said he couldn't because they sold alcohol. I asked about the 51% and they mentioned they were posted.
Whether TABC posted or "self-posted" is unknown. I've yet to visit them....and probably won't.
If he sells alcohol, then he is required to post one of the two signs by TABC. You can look at the TABC database here http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/PublicInquiry/Status.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; to see which sign he should have. If it says Gun Sign BLUE, then you can carry there with no 30.06. Gun Sign RED means it's a 51% location and you can't carry there. If he has the wrong sign posted, then TABC needs to be advised and they will make sure he posts the right one.
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